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Title: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Rdp066 on January 11, 2025, 06:59:34 PM
Just watched Joe drive an even no money shot and finish dead last.  He also trains the horse and the horse got swallowed up in the stretch.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: bello on January 11, 2025, 07:18:59 PM
a. horse was ridiculously overbet
b. JBs horses usually are
c. Regardless of what dave little says....barn got cold
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: MCR on January 11, 2025, 07:25:55 PM
Barn got cold when Joe came back to drive
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: makingit on January 11, 2025, 08:39:41 PM
Nice drive by Joe in Race 5, Was picked to come in sixth but didn't let it faze him. Would have been buried if he didn't rocket out as he usually does any way. Good drive.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on January 11, 2025, 08:41:20 PM
He really doesn't have much talent. Nothing in the vein. Nothing in the lane. That's the golden rule.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Lar4400 on January 11, 2025, 11:11:04 PM
Totally disagree about Joe. Yes he’s aggressive for sure but he does have talent and one always gets their moneys worth on the vast majority of his drives.
To me it seems that he works his ass off and results speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: 2beblunt on January 11, 2025, 11:40:59 PM
Where was he last race? That's a nice horse, used to be at Yonkers a lot.



Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 12, 2025, 12:45:58 AM
Looks like Joe’s barn only tmbz1 WON 3 tonight .
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: goblue on January 13, 2025, 10:46:36 AM
Fading this barn has been very profitable the last few weeks

Similar to fading Erv in the fall at Hoosier after the spring steroids taper off
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: BigMFan on January 13, 2025, 11:55:52 AM
Barn hasn’t been the same since the Hall of Famer Jenn quit the business. 
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 13, 2025, 11:57:08 AM
all Bonjos need to be banded
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on January 13, 2025, 12:01:23 PM
Totally disagree about Joe. Yes he’s aggressive for sure but he does have talent and one always gets their moneys worth on the vast majority of his drives.
To me it seems that he works his ass off and results speak for themselves.

when you say get your moneys worth do you mean jumping around like an epileptic in the bike. and horse getting carved like a thanksgiving turkey?  is that what you mean?
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: SDST2009 on January 13, 2025, 05:20:28 PM
when you say get your moneys worth do you mean jumping around like an epileptic in the bike. and horse getting carved like a thanksgiving turkey?  is that what you mean?

Glad someone said it. It is asinine the amount of leaping around like a monkey he does in the bike. There is no way all that rocking around actually helps a horse move forward.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: hoosierboy on January 13, 2025, 05:25:30 PM
Glad someone said it. It is asinine the amount of leaping around like a monkey he does in the bike. There is no way all that rocking around actually helps a horse move forward.

Just another hack trying to be something. Maybe him and Sears can watch replays together while sharing popcorn when Sears was driving.  Never once did Sears act that way in a bike nor does any of the other big time drivers.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Lar4400 on January 13, 2025, 05:48:36 PM
That’s his style nothing wrong with that in my view.
Larry Bird and MJ had different styles but both were still great.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: SDST2009 on January 13, 2025, 05:53:48 PM
That’s his style nothing wrong with that in my view.
Larry Bird and MJ had different styles but both were still great.

Different styles is a different thing than physics. If you rock back and forth you are pushing and pulling the bike..and thus the horse..forward and back. I can't say how much of a difference it makes but there is no chance it helps.

I actually think he his a decent driver, but that particular move makes me insane.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on January 13, 2025, 06:16:34 PM
That’s his style nothing wrong with that in my view.
Larry Bird and MJ had different styles but both were still great.

That style got another horses skull cracked open near the finish line at the meadowlands. Nothing wrong with that?
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: hoosierboy on January 13, 2025, 07:45:53 PM
That’s his style nothing wrong with that in my view.
Larry Bird and MJ had different styles but both were still great.

Please tell me your not saying Joe is great
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Lar4400 on January 13, 2025, 10:14:09 PM
As good as those guys that we call the best, just my opinion. Seems to put his drives in play most races and what else can you ask for if your betting.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Arrive7100 on January 13, 2025, 11:36:32 PM
Please tell me your not saying Joe is great

There's a big difference between being good and great. Dexter Dunn is obviously the best and elite. The next few are great but not as good, then you have the ones below them who are very good but not great, then ones who are good, then ones who are average or slightly above. Some people don't like Joe, I happen to think he's a good driver with live hands, my one criticism is alot of times he's over-aggressive which is okay at Yonkers but not at Meadowlands.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on January 14, 2025, 12:58:27 PM
i wonder if anyone checks those stifles on those things walking off the track. this dude ball bats these animals bad.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Onthefront11 on January 17, 2025, 12:11:23 AM
Went backwards on the change horse looked bad
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: halfinhalfout on January 17, 2025, 08:46:17 AM
He and his cuzzin Ceba Horsey should be fined or suspended if they even carry a whip.  I have been in the presence of people that I was trying to familiarize with the sport I love.  Watching JB reef one as he starts to back through the field is hard to rationalize and appears to be animal abuse.  Horsey is even worse, the fact that this ass clown even has a license is a total laughable disgrace.
Watch Dunn, Tetrick, Miller, Jim MacdDonald .....they use the whip sparingly or not at all.  No Joe does not have good hands...he is a disease.

Ask Brian Sears about how his whipping cost him the Meadowlands Pace
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: okdfool on January 17, 2025, 10:01:38 AM
The new form is to rock and jump around I think they received  some bad advice from the bike manufacturer I mean would ANYONE want to move forward at  a fast speed if someone was jumping up and down, or sitting and actually ‘driving’ you forward? Think about it 🫤
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Papillon on January 17, 2025, 10:04:41 AM
Totally disagree about Joe. Yes he’s aggressive for sure but he does have talent and one always gets their moneys worth on the vast majority of his drives.
To me it seems that he works his ass off and results speak for themselves.

this is an embarrassing statement ngc3
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: intheclubhouse on January 17, 2025, 10:06:31 AM
I like his driving and he gets the most out of his horses.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: JT on January 17, 2025, 11:40:33 AM
Horrible driver and his family are crooks. Enough said
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: old guy on January 17, 2025, 12:26:11 PM
If they started assassinating drivers they would kill an innocent man.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: Onthefront11 on January 18, 2025, 12:44:10 AM
What's he going to tell the owner tomorrow after he's up the track again?  I'm sure there's a good story ready for someone like that
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: WillieGoldberg on January 18, 2025, 10:42:10 PM
Barn hasn’t been the same since the Hall of Famer Jenn quit the business.
This.
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: hoosierboy on January 18, 2025, 10:58:41 PM
The new form is to rock and jump around I think they received  some bad advice from the bike manufacturer I mean would ANYONE want to move forward at  a fast speed if someone was jumping up and down, or sitting and actually ‘driving’ you forward? Think about it 🫤

Is that so.  None of the top 10 drivers bounce around like he does.  Looks like a monkey fucking a football out there. 
Title: Re: Joe Bongiorno - Second race at Big M
Post by: SDST2009 on January 18, 2025, 11:47:02 PM
Is that so.  None of the top 10 drivers bounce around like he does.  Looks like a monkey fucking a football out there.

I think he is making your exact point.
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