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Title: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 21, 2025, 10:49:19 PM
I swear I saw Sunday racing at the swamp February and March . Now I don’t see it there . Freehold racing is removed at the swamp ?? Anyone know anything?
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Lar4400 on January 22, 2025, 12:02:09 AM
Amazing that the track mgt would not issue a notice if these dates are being Cancelled being that they announced the dates and published them on their website racing dates schedule.
No respect for the horse players that support the product.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Scooteroo on January 22, 2025, 06:28:07 AM
Checking their website, I don't see the dates listed as live racing dates anymore. I know they announced they're racing Sundays in February and March. Were those dates ever listed on their calendar as live racing dates?
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 22, 2025, 07:30:41 AM
Yes they were .!! Somethings up out East .
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: PIGLAND on January 22, 2025, 08:01:17 AM
they added those dates to August
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 22, 2025, 09:28:46 AM
Pig land they were always on the August calendar. Something happened with the added Freehold dates .
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Chessington on January 22, 2025, 10:38:41 AM
Amazing that the track mgt would not issue a notice if these dates are being Cancelled being that they announced the dates and published them on their website racing dates schedule.
No respect for the horse players that support the product.

Gural probably made the decision for two reasons, lack of horse inventory and it would cost him more out of pocket to race than not to race? If he saw it as a money maker, he most likely would raced those dates?
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Scooteroo on January 22, 2025, 11:12:26 AM
Maybe he would have raced if he got Freehold's purse subsidy.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 22, 2025, 12:38:06 PM
Did they not get the subsidy? Is that what happened?
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Scooteroo on January 22, 2025, 12:39:42 PM
Haven't heard anything but that could be the reason.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Chessington on January 22, 2025, 12:46:10 PM
Haven't heard anything but that could be the reason.
There may be a political process to be followed in order to get those subsidies moved to the Meadowlands and the state doesn’t move fast on anything?
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Papillon on January 22, 2025, 12:53:06 PM
There may be a political process to be followed in order to get those subsidies moved to the Meadowlands and the state doesn’t move fast on anything?

this is probably the case

most would assume, including myself, that M1 receives the freehold share of the subsidy

not exactly sure-but I think the way NJ has it worded is that thoroughbreds get X amount and harness gets Y amount
if that is the case then Gural automatically gets it

good point about NJ being slow in these processes
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: SAW on January 22, 2025, 06:45:54 PM
Pig land they were always on the August calendar. Something happened with the added Freehold dates .

They haven't taken any days away; (a few have been added) they appear to have been moved (from the Sundays on the earlier Calendar) to previously open dates in fall.

The Meadowlands have been racing 90 dates Per NJRC approval for the last few years, but the current calendar shows 94 dates?
I believe its still subject to changes.

Also, "The New Jersey Standardbred Development Fund races, formerly raced at Freehold Raceway, have been integrated into the schedule throughout the season, insuring no loss of racing opportunities to those horses".

Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: stanetelman on January 22, 2025, 07:52:48 PM
They switched them to fridays and Saturdays late summer and fall to the end of the year. Only dark from September 19 to October 24.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: stanetelman on January 22, 2025, 08:34:38 PM
Only Fridays and Saturdays this year,  they lose too much money running other days.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: BigMFan on January 23, 2025, 01:00:25 AM
The purse subsidy for Freehold was through 2029 before they closed the track for good.  Sounds like the NJRC is staying silent about this.  I’m assuming if Gural doesn’t get the subsidy he’s not opening the track for the 2 months in February and March.  I’m starting to think Gural may pull the plug on the Meadowlands soon.  He wants a casino.  South Jersey does not want that to happen.  Typical nonsense in NJ.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Chessington on January 23, 2025, 12:01:54 PM
The purse subsidy for Freehold was through 2029 before they closed the track for good.  Sounds like the NJRC is staying silent about this.  I’m assuming if Gural doesn’t get the subsidy he’s not opening the track for the 2 months in February and March.  I’m starting to think Gural may pull the plug on the Meadowlands soon.  He wants a casino.  South Jersey does not want that to happen.  Typical nonsense in NJ.

 I think Gural made it known he is giving the casino license 2 more years to happen or he’ll close the track? If that does happen, thank you Jeff for extending the life of harness racing an additional 12 years. If you didn’t save the track then, just think of the ramifications the entire industry would be enduring today. I sincerely appreciate your efforts of “cleaning” up the industry. I don’t think most people understand the reflection of harness racing with not only ALL the positives, but the ability for these criminals to kick the can down the road through the appeal process. The pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered, let the slaughtering begin.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 23, 2025, 12:25:00 PM
So there is a battle over the freehold subsidy or handout ?? What’s the problem just transfer the funds to the swamp and lets race out East . You guys walk over dollars and pick up Nickels .
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Papillon on January 23, 2025, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: stanetelman link=topic=the tra.msg1187655#msg1187655 date=1737593568
They switched them to fridays and Saturdays late summer and fall to the end of the year. Only dark from September 19 to October 24.

Monmouth has turf races on Fri and Sat at M1 in late Sept and most of October


Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 23, 2025, 03:40:48 PM
Looks like those Freehold dudes are out in the cold I guess. Looks like they watered down the swamp product to let some race this weekend.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 25, 2025, 09:45:29 AM
We heard out here no Sundays until after Hambo . They had 416 entries this week including 103 dated from the old freehold track . Yikes you guys out East never racing .
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Dingus on January 25, 2025, 03:35:54 PM
We heard out here no Sundays until after Hambo . They had 416 entries this week including 103 dated from the old freehold track . Yikes you guys out East never racing .

Tell me about it.  Been getting in every other week.  Can’t wait for pocono to open.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 25, 2025, 04:49:50 PM
Maybe consolidate your junk and make 3 . 1
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Chessington on January 25, 2025, 08:09:23 PM
Tell me about it.  Been getting in every other week.  Can’t wait for pocono to open.

Too bad out of 416 entries the quality of racing for the most part is just horrible. To me it looks like a bunch of Freehold type horses are filling 90% of the card
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: PIGLAND on January 25, 2025, 08:45:06 PM
no body on earth but gural would open the meadowlands,and hes not young
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on January 25, 2025, 09:40:24 PM
Should bar all those freehold creatures
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: KING HAKU on January 25, 2025, 09:49:49 PM
I think Gural made it known he is giving the casino license 2 more years to happen or he’ll close the track? If that does happen, thank you Jeff for extending the life of harness racing an additional 12 years. If you didn’t save the track then, just think of the ramifications the entire industry would be enduring today. I sincerely appreciate your efforts of “cleaning” up the industry. I don’t think most people understand the reflection of harness racing with not only ALL the positives, but the ability for these criminals to kick the can down the road through the appeal process. The pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered, let the slaughtering begin.
finally somebody agrees with me you're a smart person.
Title: Re: Where did the Sundays go on the swamps calendar?
Post by: BigMFan on January 27, 2025, 10:24:08 AM
It’s official.  No Sunday racing.  Wonder if Gural will comment about it.
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