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Title: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Dingus on February 01, 2025, 06:53:47 PM
Wait until you see the prices in the supermarket and gas station next week.
Will he hold a news conference showing the prices of food, gasoline/diesel, and lumber since he took office?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Mazola on February 01, 2025, 06:55:23 PM
Starts a trade war with his biggest trading partners..brillia nt.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: gogasgoboom on February 01, 2025, 07:08:35 PM
It's extortion. Every time he wants something it'll be give it to me or tariffs. It won't end. He is going to bigfoot the rest of the world in order to fill his boots.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 01, 2025, 08:03:25 PM
Wait until you see the prices in the supermarket and gas station next week.
Will he hold a news conference showing the prices of food, gasoline/diesel, and lumber since he took office?

If anyone hasn't filled up their car with fuel, and gone grocery shopping lately, you might want to do it sooner than later!  Don't forget what the prices are today--Saturday February 1, 2024 and how they will be between the added tariffs on quite a few products that everyone uses everyday!  Maybe we should all post prices on horseplop and the area of the country we live in (Canada too) so that everyone else can see this and make their own judgments accordingly!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: gogasgoboom on February 01, 2025, 08:26:27 PM
I would expect the Canadian response to target red states more than blue.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Dingus on February 01, 2025, 10:46:19 PM
Last time Trump pulled this shit:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trade-war-has-killed-300000-jobs-194717808.html
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Parked on February 01, 2025, 11:00:02 PM
Canada subsidizes lumber, beef, pork and chicken production , this enables producers to sell cheaper .  This hurts USA producers and the tariffs  will even this out.  Go Trump. 
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 01, 2025, 11:12:19 PM
Canada subsidizes lumber, beef, pork and chicken production , this enables producers to sell cheaper .  This hurts USA producers and the tariffs  will even this out.  Go Trump.

We subsidize agriculture so much, last trade war Trump gave soybean farmers 7.3 billion dollars (or as harness racing critics here call it welfare). The only one who will be even this out will be suckers like you who will paying more for beef and lumber.   No tariffs on eggs I see but the price has gone up to an all time high under Trump who promised they would be cut on day 1. You know just the Ukraine war would be over before he took office.  But i say lets have the tariffs and see how great they work…if they do great , if they don’t which is the likely scenario then Trump voters who are non cult members will maybe come back to their senses. 
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: TimTimTimbo on February 02, 2025, 12:05:42 AM
Denmark is talking about putting troops in Greenland. Just wait until Nato and the rest of the world defends these countries against Trump. Trump is destroying this country and the rest of the world will finish it off while China and Putin laugh.

He has no right to Greenland and no fucking right to any other country.

Musk and the Billionaire bought Trump off. Tariffs will destroy the economy. That fat orange blob has no fucking idea how Tariffas work. In 2 years, just watch half of those that voted for him regret it. Morons didn't learn the first time. The rest of the world despises Trump save a few dictators.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Calhoun on February 02, 2025, 08:06:56 AM
Eggs are $6 a dz.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Brown jug on February 02, 2025, 08:13:02 AM
your blaming trump for the price of eggs even tough he has been in office for one week ?
wouldn't the guy before him be to blame ?

however lets see where things stand in a month or so not just for eggs but for gas etc
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: bigbettor on February 02, 2025, 08:33:12 AM
Egg prices are skyrocketing because Bird Flu is ravaging farms across North America. Given the FACT Trump and Project 2025 are dismantling the CDC, NIH, and other governmental agencies most people are in the dark as to why the shelves are empty.
Bird Flu not Trump's fault; response to the crisis? TBD
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: gogasgoboom on February 02, 2025, 08:40:34 AM
No worries with bird flu, there will be enough bleach injections and UV light enemas for everyone.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 02, 2025, 08:55:17 AM
your blaming trump for the price of eggs even tough he has been in office for one week ?
wouldn't the guy before him be to blame ?

however lets see where things stand in a month or so not just for eggs but for gas etc

I know that the egg prices arent his fault. Bit he campaigned on day 1 they would be lower. You know the price of gas going ip under Biden wasnt his fault either but he got blamed everyday, just like he did the price of eggs. Ps can somehow tell me why Musk has government employee records. Is he a confirmed cabinet member, he has night to any of this. Plus he is basically a nazi. His family moved to South Africa from Canada to be part of apartheid. . Really .
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 02, 2025, 09:07:47 AM
This is the first Administration move that I don't like.
Is it still about the lack of effort by Canada and Mexico in securing their borders with the USA?
If yes, hopefully there are clear expectations made, they are immediately put in place and these tariffs can end as quickly as they started.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 02, 2025, 09:21:32 AM
"Plus he is basically a nazi. His family moved to South Africa from Canada to be part of apartheid. . Really ."

Unstable, do you blatantly lie to try and make your point?
What a loser.

His father is South African.
Musk was born in South Africa.   (he didn't move from Canada to South Africa)
At 17 he moved to Canada to attend school.   (his mother is half Canadian)

Unstable, if you want to be taken seriously, check the facts supporting your ignorant comments.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: firhill on February 02, 2025, 09:45:05 AM
I love Bill Maher.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: wiseowl on February 02, 2025, 10:21:56 AM
The Border when you cross over into anther country it is there people who check every one crossing if the U.S. can't control there border stop blaming every one else and do your job but like Trump he cry about every thing he will ruin north America just give him a few months.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 02, 2025, 10:27:35 AM
"Plus he is basically a nazi. His family moved to South Africa from Canada to be part of apartheid. . Really ."

Unstable, do you blatantly lie to try and make your point?
What a loser.

His father is South African.
Musk was born in South Africa.   (he didn't move from Canada to South Africa)
At 17 he moved to Canada to attend school.   (his mother is half Canadian)

Unstable, if you want to be taken seriously, check the facts supporting your ignorant comments.

His father was South African he did move back from Canada. He served in the Aparthied government.  He also voted againt the consitutional amendment to alow black people to serve in congress that passed by the white government at that time.  he was abusive to his children and wife (just like Elon). He married his stepdaughter (just like woody allen).  He owned mining operations. 

His son Elon lost millions for how they treat black workers at Tesla.  He tweeted Haitians are cannibals. He retweets Nazi propaganda.He doesn't like Nile Farage of Britan who is super far right for not supporting him in getting a further right criminal released.  He makes jokes about the Holocaust and appeared at a far right German right party meeting the day before Holocaust remembrance day.  he also likes the Nazi salute.  He is definitely Nazi sympathetic to say the least.  He censors people on twitter all the time. He cozied up to Trump partly to get the EV credits removed partly because Tesla was losing them while Hyundai built factories in the US and was about to get them.  Can you tell me what you like about him as a person?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: mwins on February 02, 2025, 10:59:36 AM
Looks like Canada supplies around 3 million barrels of crude oil daily to the USA. Throw a 25% tariff on that and watch prices.

60% of imported crude oil comes from Canada.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: jdogg1977 on February 02, 2025, 11:55:27 AM
Assclown doesnt care. This is a ploy to manipulate the markets on purpose so him and his rich buddies can buy low. They’ll load up tomorrow, and magically the tariffs will be pushed out due to some sort of “Ageement”. Hopefully that’s just the stupid game he’s playing. Then again, play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Calhoun on February 02, 2025, 12:02:31 PM
"Plus he is basically a nazi. His family moved to South Africa from Canada to be part of apartheid. . Really ."

Unstable, do you blatantly lie to try and make your point?
What a loser.

His father is South African.
Musk was born in South Africa.   (he didn't move from Canada to South Africa)
At 17 he moved to Canada to attend school.   (his mother is half Canadian)

Unstable, if you want to be taken seriously, check the facts supporting your ignorant comments.

You shouldn't believe Unstable that Musk is a Nazi/White Supremacist.

But you sure can believe prominent Nazis/White Supremacists who say he is.

You can sure believe Trump's very own favorite White Supremacist and dinner guest Nick Fuentes who went orgasmic after Musk's gesture.

When the Nazi types regale another person for being similar, you can  and should give thought to how all the dots connect.

It isn't really hard.

It's Trump and Musk giving the racist as fuck part of MAGA the ok to be racist as fuck.

"Some very good people on both sides."






Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kirbys Ace on February 02, 2025, 12:10:33 PM
The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling!

 73cv.2
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 02, 2025, 02:20:20 PM
Calhoun ....  Musk’s public preoccupations on X, his messaging platform, are certainly libertarian. He fulminates against over-regulation and government waste and obsesses over freeing the potential of the market and of individuals.

Just because he has right wing ideas, doesn't make him a Nazi.

Unstable  ....   You seem to have more negative info on Musk's father than Elon himself.  If it makes you feel better, it's well documented he doesn't care much for his father. 

I agree, he may have $$ in mind with his support for Trump.  Doesn't everyone business person that financially supports a political party.

I've never said how I feel about Musk at any time that I remember.   I have simply challenged you on your credibility with respect to what you put forth as facts about him. 
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 02, 2025, 02:25:19 PM
Calhoun ....  Musk’s public preoccupations on X, his messaging platform, are certainly libertarian. He fulminates against over-regulation and government waste and obsesses over freeing the potential of the market and of individuals.

Just because he has right wing ideas, doesn't make him a Nazi.

Unstable  ....   You seem to have more negative info on Musk's father than Elon himself.  If it makes you feel better, it's well documented he doesn't care much for his father. 

I agree, he may have $$ in mind with his support for Trump.  Doesn't everyone business person that financially supports a political party.

I've never said how I feel about Musk at any time that I remember.   I have simply challenged you on your credibility with respect to what you put forth as facts about him.

You are correct just because he has right wing ideas makes him a Nazi. But when you troll with a NAzi salute and make jokes/tweets mocking the Holocaust you likely are or just racist anti semite. 
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Calhoun on February 02, 2025, 03:26:38 PM
Calhoun ....  Musk’s public preoccupations on X, his messaging platform, are certainly libertarian. He fulminates against over-regulation and government waste and obsesses over freeing the potential of the market and of individuals.

Just because he has right wing ideas, doesn't make him a Nazi.

Come on, now.

How is it possible for anyone to believe Musk is truly against regulation?

Tesla was built, has survived and grown based upon upon government regulation. Tesla has received $11 Billion in U.S. Government  regulatory tax credits. That $7,500 tax credit for EVs was created for Musk, and nearly all of it has flowed to Tesla's bottom line.

Tesla is not a new company. It received well over $500 Million in low interest loans and finally became profitable a few years ago.

From Start of Tesla to present day, Tesla has shown, overall, a loss.

Meanwhile, in the same period of time, Musk has become the world's richest person.  Without those regulatory tax credits, this doesn't happen.

Now, Musk wants to end the $7500 tax credit (the hooked line you apparently have bit) because he wants to make it more difficult for Tesla's competitors.

Space X is the same story.

As far as Musk not being a white supremacist, I'll go with the opinion of Trump's guy Nick Fuentes. You choose to ignore that.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Janny on February 02, 2025, 03:30:19 PM
Fans at a NHL game in Ottawa last night against Minnesota the folks booed when the woman sang the US anthem. Only the beginning.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 02, 2025, 03:35:09 PM
Fans at a NHL game in Ottawa last night against Minnesota the folks booed when the woman sang the US anthem. Only the beginning.

But now the world respects us!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Janny on February 02, 2025, 05:40:51 PM
No. They think we’re stupid.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kenny on February 02, 2025, 06:19:04 PM
Eggs are $6 a dz.

I paid $3.49...
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: okdfool on February 02, 2025, 06:20:38 PM
Wait until you see the prices in the supermarket and gas station next week.
Will he hold a news conference showing the prices of food, gasoline/diesel, and lumber since he took office?

Just got gas $2.69 🤷🏼‍♀️
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 02, 2025, 06:26:52 PM
Why do you dislike the President that stands up and makes other nations pay their fair share when it comes to international initiatives.
Of course everyone hated him in Europe when he called out NATO countries for living off the backs of American military power.  Guess what.   That shit is expensive and once he forced them to, our NATO allies have started to increase their commitment.  If pushing people to do what they agreed to all along gets you hated, so be it.

And all the tax credits you talk about for Tesla, were given because governments had convinced themselves and their citizens that EV's were needed to save the world from burning up by 2030.  The government needed Tesla more than Tesla needed the government.

*****   What 'regulatory credits' are — and why they're so important

In a push to reduce carbon emissions, *** governments*** around the world have introduced incentives for automakers to develop electric vehicles in return for credits.
As Tesla only sells electric cars, it receives these credits for free and can sell them at a huge profit to other automakers who can't meet regulatory requirements.  ******
Our idiot governments created this windfall for Tesla because they wanted to rush, promote and pay for the rapid introduction of a product that wasn't even needed.  You make it sound like Tesla made up the regulations.     
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kenny on February 02, 2025, 06:28:27 PM
This is the first Administration move that I don't like.
Is it still about the lack of effort by Canada and Mexico in securing their borders with the USA?
If yes, hopefully there are clear expectations made, they are immediately put in place and these tariffs can end as quickly as they started.

Here is the rest of the story. During Trump's first term, he put tariffs on China. China was/is dumping goods in the US at low cost because they can work people to deaths and maybe even use children. Some of those products are critical like drugs used in surgery. When Biden took office he reversed many thing Trump did but not the tariffs on China. In fact Biden raised some of them. The result is that imports from China fell. What happened next was China started routing those products through Mexico and Canada. That is why Trump is doing what he is doing. The government of China has a sinister agenda. For some reason people ignore that.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Jctoronto on February 02, 2025, 07:21:13 PM
Shark Tank's and Montreal's own Kevin O'Leary wants Trudeau bad. And he has Trump's ear...get rid of Trudeau and liberals leadership and let conservatism and investment once more in Canada again. For weeks, O'Leary's been blasting Trudeau and Trump agrees and his mission..short term Canada pain, leading to April election..
WATCH

https://youtube.com/shorts/wQwHssGU2d8?si=KzKT9hAvBP_un0w7
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: carl baldwin on February 02, 2025, 07:35:10 PM
If anyone hasn't filled up their car with fuel, and gone grocery shopping lately,
I went grocery shopping 4 weeks ago at Pete's Market and the lady in front of my paid $ 255.00 for a basket of groceries.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: PIGLAND on February 02, 2025, 07:48:11 PM
gotta love Trump
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: firhill on February 02, 2025, 08:14:22 PM
That O'Leary guy comes across as a bit of a slimeball.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: PIGLAND on February 02, 2025, 08:17:22 PM
That O'Leary guy comes across as a bit of a slimeball.
how about adam shift?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 08:33:57 PM
I went grocery shopping 4 weeks ago at Pete's Market and the lady in front of my paid $ 255.00 for a basket of groceries.

Wait til you see what that same basket costs in the very near future!!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Mazola on February 02, 2025, 08:35:30 PM
That O'Leary guy comes across as a bit of a slimeball.
Totally
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 08:35:56 PM
gotta love Trump

THANK YOU PRESIDENT PORKY!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 08:36:51 PM
Just got gas $2.69 🤷🏼‍♀️

Wait til the Canadian tariffs hit!

Please stay tuned!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: oldjohn123 on February 02, 2025, 09:25:36 PM
your blaming trump for the price of eggs even tough he has been in office for one week ?
wouldn't the guy before him be to blame ?

however lets see where things stand in a month or so not just for eggs but for gas etc
He did say prices would come down day 1.So did he lie or just know about the bird flu?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 02, 2025, 09:37:21 PM
President Trump has loads of world class advisors, and you girls sound like the cackle from a beauty salon!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: KING HAKU on February 02, 2025, 09:50:34 PM
It's going to take President Trump a while to fix the problems created by Biden and Harris. We are on our way of having a great country again thank you President Trump!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Mazola on February 02, 2025, 09:51:00 PM
President Trump has loads of world class advisors, and you girls sound like the cackle from a beauty salon!

Only ass kissers
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: KING HAKU on February 02, 2025, 09:52:10 PM
THANK YOU PRESIDENT PORKY!!
you really are right the motherfucker
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Jctoronto on February 02, 2025, 09:57:43 PM
And tonight, landing in DC, Trump added South Africa to longlist of countries he is currently involved in. He said he's pulling all US funding there pending investigation as it looks like South Africa's black pres is apparently following the '80 Zimbabwe lead where government grabs white farmland and gives it to black folks to farm. No deal, no money, just takes.  Trump said that isn't gonna happen on his watch and is taking all funding out and apparently there's plenty of it
WATCH
many topics covered in rapid fire. Biden and Kamala couldn't do this in a million yrs, so impressive.
https://youtu.be/HyKrPJHSiOI?si=OYPLtDgJp7BYJS69
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 10:04:05 PM
President Trump has loads of world class advisors, and you girls sound like the cackle from a beauty salon!

Please tell us who the “world class” advisors are!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Anthonym on February 02, 2025, 10:07:54 PM
Lots of communists on here. Wait and see. Give him a chance. Where were you the last four years while Biden/ Obama were fucking this country up? What does this have to do with racing? At least petrelli is a patriot
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 02, 2025, 10:08:47 PM
Please tell us who the “world class” advisors are!

Scott Bessent
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 02, 2025, 10:13:04 PM
Please tell us who the “world class” advisors are!
 

Howard Lutnick
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 10:25:38 PM
Scott Bessent

The only 1?

Now can you name the other 'KISS ASS' "LOSERS"?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 02, 2025, 10:26:44 PM
 

Howard Lutnick

Anyone else?

Please elaborate on the "KISS ASS" 'LOSERS' too!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 02, 2025, 11:23:03 PM
Lots of communists on here. Wait and see. Give him a chance. Where were you the last four years while Biden/ Obama were fucking this country up? What does this have to do with racing? At least petrelli is a patriot

Communist that is funny.  The Wall Street Journal said his tariffs are the worst idea ever.  Are they communist.  PS Elon Musk has access to your private information and IRS records. Seems a little bit wrong for a private citizen to have that info no?
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: PineHurstPacer on February 02, 2025, 11:44:18 PM
He's got Trudeau in his usual position....down on his knees

Zelensky admits $100 billion out of the $177 billion we gave them is somehow missing

DOGE will save over 1 trillion faster than anyone expected

DEI is over

The DNC approval rating is at an all time low, everyone now sees what a real leader does in office

and....California is till full of complete morons
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: TimTimTimbo on February 03, 2025, 01:32:47 AM
It's going to take President Trump a while to fix the problems created by Biden and Harris. We are on our way of having a great country again thank you President Trump!

It will take about two or three months to destroy the economy as all the Tariffs and the retaliation we will see will drive everything up to oblivion.

I was not a fan of Biden and certainly not of Kamala but it is mind-boggling to see anyone with several brain cells not see what he is doing. He is systematically making the world hate him. This time around all the billionaires are funneling money to him and so with his narcissistic personality and his grifting and greed for money means that 25 percent of his decisions are because he is mentally ill and seeks revenge and the other 75 percent is transactional.

Any decent economist will tell you that tariffs will destroy the economy. There is always a need to put a tariff on a few select items but this is  25 percent tariff on friendly countries. Trump with Mexico and Canada signed that NAFTA deal. Now he wants to stick it to them.

We import 3.8 million barrels a day from Canada, more than any other country. This particular type of crude is sent through the refineries here that are set up for that from Canada.


Just imagine if Canada imposes a tariff on that, as it is now the auto industry will soon have massive layoffs because of one thing. DONALD J TRUMP.


Canadian crude oil is often considered different from other crude oils, particularly due to its heavier nature, with most of it coming from oil sands, and therefore refineries need to adjust their operations to process this type of heavy crude effectively; many refineries, especially in the US Midwest, are specifically designed to handle Canadian heavy oil, which requires different processing techniques compared to lighter crudes.
Key points about Canadian crude:
Heavy and Sour:
Canadian crude, particularly the benchmark "Western Canadian Select (WCS)," is classified as heavy and sour, meaning it has a higher density and sulfur content compared to lighter, sweeter crudes found elsewhere.
Refining Requirements:
Processing heavy crude like Canadian oil necessitates specialized equipment and refining processes, including coking units, which are not needed for lighter crudes.
Impact on Refineries:
Refineries that regularly process Canadian crude need to be adapted to handle the increased processing complexity associated with heavy oil, which can affect their operational costs.
Market Implications:
Due to its unique characteristics, Canadian crude is often priced at a discount compared to lighter crudes, depending on market conditions and pipeline access.

Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: bestbetter on February 03, 2025, 02:42:06 AM
We need Biden and the rats back to ruin our country for good. So fucking dumb... ngc3
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: PineHurstPacer on February 03, 2025, 03:29:29 AM
tariffs are, and always have been about policy change

Canada is going to cave the quickest, or else the entire Country will be eating rice 3X a day

Mexico and China are going some time, but you can bet they both wish anyone except Trump was in charge

Winning is here and more to come

MAGA
DOGE
USA FIRST
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 03, 2025, 08:00:48 AM
He's got Trudeau in his usual position....down on his knees

Zelensky admits $100 billion out of the $177 billion we gave them is somehow missing

DOGE will save over 1 trillion faster than anyone expected

DEI is over

The DNC approval rating is at an all time low, everyone now sees what a real leader does in office

and....California is till full of complete morons

Zelensky missing that much money is almost impossible since most of it is in arms produced in the United States. Try another news source.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: talkstohisself on February 03, 2025, 11:20:59 AM
agent orange already waved the white flag on tariffs guy is a joke
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 03, 2025, 11:23:33 AM
Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause
Trump admin officials are working with Mexico on a wider deal.

Tell us again, who raised the white flag.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 03, 2025, 12:30:39 PM
Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause
Trump admin officials are working with Mexico on a wider deal.

Tell us again, who raised the white flag.

Tariffs are the least of my worries.  Firing FBI agents for doing their jobs and having Elon have access to every social security number recepient and payment made by the government is far more concerning. 
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: halfinhalfout on February 03, 2025, 02:01:40 PM
So it appears that China wants to come to the table, Mexico has come to the table, Panama would rather have us as the big brother than China.
Within several weeks this will be over.  We as a country buy more from all our trade partners than anyone else....without us buying product those countries go belly up.
Call it whatever you want...it is economic Darwinism (if there is such a term).

We are in the drivers seat, instead of apologizing to the world for being what we are Trump is capitalizing on it.
Bravo President Trump
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 03, 2025, 04:07:35 PM
Unstable, it doesn't matter what the Administration does, you've already moved on to the next fear keeping you up all night.   You're not going to sleep well for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 03, 2025, 04:53:20 PM
Unstable, it doesn't matter what the Administration does, you've already moved on to the next fear keeping you up all night.   You're not going to sleep well for the next 4 years.

Many people in this country and the world won’t be sleeping well!

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: PineHurstPacer on February 03, 2025, 05:07:38 PM
Zelensky is the one who said it Einstein

https://x.com/i/status/1886107817255321742
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kenny on February 03, 2025, 06:16:34 PM
It will take about two or three months to destroy the economy as all the Tariffs and the retaliation we will see will drive everything up to oblivion.

I was not a fan of Biden and certainly not of Kamala but it is mind-boggling to see anyone with several brain cells not see what he is doing. He is systematically making the world hate him. This time around all the billionaires are funneling money to him and so with his narcissistic personality and his grifting and greed for money means that 25 percent of his decisions are because he is mentally ill and seeks revenge and the other 75 percent is transactional.

Any decent economist will tell you that tariffs will destroy the economy. There is always a need to put a tariff on a few select items but this is  25 percent tariff on friendly countries. Trump with Mexico and Canada signed that NAFTA deal. Now he wants to stick it to them.

We import 3.8 million barrels a day from Canada, more than any other country. This particular type of crude is sent through the refineries here that are set up for that from Canada.


Just imagine if Canada imposes a tariff on that, as it is now the auto industry will soon have massive layoffs because of one thing. DONALD J TRUMP.


Canadian crude oil is often considered different from other crude oils, particularly due to its heavier nature, with most of it coming from oil sands, and therefore refineries need to adjust their operations to process this type of heavy crude effectively; many refineries, especially in the US Midwest, are specifically designed to handle Canadian heavy oil, which requires different processing techniques compared to lighter crudes.
Key points about Canadian crude:
Heavy and Sour:
Canadian crude, particularly the benchmark "Western Canadian Select (WCS)," is classified as heavy and sour, meaning it has a higher density and sulfur content compared to lighter, sweeter crudes found elsewhere.
Refining Requirements:
Processing heavy crude like Canadian oil necessitates specialized equipment and refining processes, including coking units, which are not needed for lighter crudes.
Impact on Refineries:
Refineries that regularly process Canadian crude need to be adapted to handle the increased processing complexity associated with heavy oil, which can affect their operational costs.
Market Implications:
Due to its unique characteristics, Canadian crude is often priced at a discount compared to lighter crudes, depending on market conditions and pipeline access.


Economist are looking at tariffs in a vacuum. There is more to this than just tariffs. If Trump cuts spending AND taxes, the net impact is zero. Our governments spends too much and is bloated and inefficient. We have too many people getting handouts. Just like COVID the democrats want Trump to fail. That clearly shows their true goal.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 03, 2025, 06:20:57 PM
Economist are looking at tariffs in a vacuum. There is more to this than just tariffs. If Trump cuts spending AND taxes, the net impact is zero. Our governments spends too much and is bloated and inefficient. We have too many people getting handouts. Just like COVID the democrats want Trump to fail. That clearly shows their true goal.

Sit tight and be patient!

Trump will because of himself, not others!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 03, 2025, 06:28:39 PM
"Many people in this country and the world won’t be sleeping well!

Thanks for posting."

Did you sleep well under Biden when the war in Ukraine and Palestine started and continued through the entire administration.  What is it you are afraid of??
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 03, 2025, 06:32:58 PM
people

Sit tight and be patient m!

FYI, Trump will fail because of himself and blame others!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kenny on February 04, 2025, 07:36:06 AM
Sit tight and be patient m!

FYI, Trump will fail because of himself and blame others!!

I am sitting back and watching Trump show the democrats how to put America and the American people first. DEI gone! Pronouns gone! Government cut in process! America is winning!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: The Unstable on February 04, 2025, 09:16:22 AM
I am sitting back and watching Trump show the democrats how to put America and the American people first. DEI gone! Pronouns gone! Government cut in process! America is winning!

Pronouns are gone (yes it was silly).  Now America is great (that is silly too).
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 04, 2025, 10:01:20 AM
Unstable, again I ask you, what are you so afraid of under the Trump Administration?

Gives us something so we can monitor how it works out!!
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: TimTimTimbo on February 04, 2025, 01:53:36 PM
Democrats took a state seat in Iowa that was Trump +21.

Quite telling I would think
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Lugnuts on February 04, 2025, 02:07:27 PM
Trump's approval all time high buckwheat
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 04, 2025, 03:19:46 PM
Trump's approval all time high buckwheat

Buckwheat?

Please explain the use of this word (name)??
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Lugnuts on February 04, 2025, 04:43:09 PM
 73cv.2
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Newt Lobell on February 04, 2025, 04:49:34 PM
William Thomas Jr. (March 12, 1931 – October 10, 1980) was an American child actor best remembered for portraying the character of Buckwheat in the Our Gang (Little Rascals) short films from 1934 until the series' end in 1944.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 04, 2025, 10:34:26 PM
Tariffs are the least of my worries.  Firing FBI agents for doing their jobs and having Elon have access to every social security number recepient and payment made by the government is far more concerning.

   Elon Musk is the last person on earth who will do anything nefarious with your social security number. He has so much money of his own, he could care less about taking yours. He is having a ball exposing democrats slush funds like USAID. Proving democrats are a bunch of criminals. Do you really think he's interested in making more money, REALLY? The man is worth $450,000,000,000. !!!!!! Elon is just enjoying his life.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 04, 2025, 10:52:35 PM
   Elon Musk is the last person on earth who will do anything nefarious with your social security number. He has so much money of his own, he could care less about taking yours. He is having a ball exposing democrats slush funds like USAID. Proving democrats are a bunch of criminals. Do you really think he's interested in making more money, REALLY? The man is worth $450,000,000,000. !!!!!! Elon is just enjoying his life.

Unfortunately, Elon lacks character and morals for starters!!  You don’t think he and/or any of his ‘friends’ could ruin the lives of so many others with the power he now has!  Please think about this very carefully.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Kenny on February 04, 2025, 11:01:41 PM
Unfortunately, Elon lacks character and morals for starters!!  You don’t think he and/or any of his ‘friends’ could ruin the lives of so many others with the power he now has!  Please think about this very carefully.

The only lives Musk will ruin is the lives of Democrats and they people that sponge of the Democrat handouts.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 04, 2025, 11:35:56 PM
Unfortunately, Elon lacks character and morals for starters!!  You don’t think he and/or any of his ‘friends’ could ruin the lives of so many others with the power he now has!  Please think about this very carefully.

 This guy bought twitter so he could stop the left from shutting down free speech! And you think he has no morals or character? WOW!!!!! You are the person who has no morals or character. Musk is all about a free and fair America.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: rainman2 on February 04, 2025, 11:48:31 PM
This guy bought twitter so he could stop the left from shutting down free speech! And you think he has no morals or character? WOW!!!!! You are the person who has no morals or character. Musk is all about a free and fair America.

Spouses   
Justine Wilson

​(m. 2000; div. 2008)​
Talulah Riley

​(m. 2010; div. 2012)​

​(m. 2013; div. 2016)​
Children   12

Musk has fathered twelve children, one of whom is deceased. He met his first wife, Canadian author Justine Wilson, while attending Queen's University in Ontario, Canada; they married in 2000. In 2002, their first child died of sudden infant death syndrome at the age of 10 weeks.[360] After the baby's death, the couple used in vitro fertilization (IVF) to continue their family; they had twins in 2004, followed by triplets in 2006. The couple divorced in 2008 and have shared custody of their children.

Musk began dating English actress Talulah Riley in 2008. They married two years later at Dornoch Cathedral in Scotland. In 2012, the couple divorced, before remarrying the following year. After briefly filing for divorce in 2014, Musk finalized a second divorce from Riley in 2016. Musk then dated Amber Heard for several months in 2017; he had reportedly been "pursuing" her since 2012.

In 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes confirmed they were dating. Grimes gave birth to Musk's seventh child in May 2020. Musk and Grimes originally gave the baby the name "X Æ A-12", which would have violated California regulations as it contained characters (Arabic numerals) that are not in the modern English alphabet, which they then changed to "X Æ A-Xii". They have received criticism for choosing a name perceived to be impractical and difficult to pronounce.

Grimes and Musk had a second child together (Musk's eighth child), born via surrogacy, in December 2021. The elder twin later came out as a trans woman and, in 2022, officially changed her name to Vivian Jenna Wilson, adopting her mother's surname because she no longer wished to be associated with Musk. In July 2022, Insider published court documents revealing that Musk had had his ninth and tenth children, twins born via IVF with Shivon Zilis, director of operations and special projects at Neuralink, in November 2021. They were born weeks before Musk and Grimes had their second child via surrogacy in December. In September 2023 it was reported that the pair had had a third child (Musk's eleventh). In October 2023, Grimes sued Musk over parental rights and custody of their eldest.

OOPS, Such morals and character!

Please read and learn!

Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: JOHN FRANK on February 05, 2025, 01:21:32 AM
Sounds alot like our new SEC of DEFENSE.
I get his visit to border 2 days ago. Dress like a civilian and shake hands with troops.
Don't worry TATOO,no one gonna shoot you. Are adversaries are laughin their ass off.
And I give it 9 months before FOX NEWS girl is filin for DIVORCE.
And 3 months before a report comes out that TATOO was caught drinkin and DRUNK.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: darnoldrocks on February 05, 2025, 08:59:49 PM
I don't give a shit who Musk has been married to, how many times he's been married or how many kids he has.
Keep digging up the waste in government spending and ending it.
USAID waste supporting bullshit programs in other countries isn't necessary when you are running a multi trillion $$ deficit at home.
Stop 10's of millions for condoms in Gaza.
Stop 10's of millions for Sesame Street in Serbia.

If Dems can't get on board with these initiatives, I don't think they will gain power in the House or the Senate anytime soon.   These are common sense cuts that most Americans are in favor of.
Title: Re: Trump playing chicken with the world
Post by: Foalin at 4 on February 05, 2025, 11:28:51 PM
Spouses   
Justine Wilson

​(m. 2000; div. 2008)​
Talulah Riley

​(m. 2010; div. 2012)​

​(m. 2013; div. 2016)​
Children   12

Musk has fathered twelve children, one of whom is deceased. He met his first wife, Canadian author Justine Wilson, while attending Queen's University in Ontario, Canada; they married in 2000. In 2002, their first child died of sudden infant death syndrome at the age of 10 weeks.[360] After the baby's death, the couple used in vitro fertilization (IVF) to continue their family; they had twins in 2004, followed by triplets in 2006. The couple divorced in 2008 and have shared custody of their children.

Musk began dating English actress Talulah Riley in 2008. They married two years later at Dornoch Cathedral in Scotland. In 2012, the couple divorced, before remarrying the following year. After briefly filing for divorce in 2014, Musk finalized a second divorce from Riley in 2016. Musk then dated Amber Heard for several months in 2017; he had reportedly been "pursuing" her since 2012.

In 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes confirmed they were dating. Grimes gave birth to Musk's seventh child in May 2020. Musk and Grimes originally gave the baby the name "X Æ A-12", which would have violated California regulations as it contained characters (Arabic numerals) that are not in the modern English alphabet, which they then changed to "X Æ A-Xii". They have received criticism for choosing a name perceived to be impractical and difficult to pronounce.

Grimes and Musk had a second child together (Musk's eighth child), born via surrogacy, in December 2021. The elder twin later came out as a trans woman and, in 2022, officially changed her name to Vivian Jenna Wilson, adopting her mother's surname because she no longer wished to be associated with Musk. In July 2022, Insider published court documents revealing that Musk had had his ninth and tenth children, twins born via IVF with Shivon Zilis, director of operations and special projects at Neuralink, in November 2021. They were born weeks before Musk and Grimes had their second child via surrogacy in December. In September 2023 it was reported that the pair had had a third child (Musk's eleventh). In October 2023, Grimes sued Musk over parental rights and custody of their eldest.

OOPS, Such morals and character!

Please read and learn!

  I guess he does know how to use a ROCKET
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