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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Jerseyjerry on February 13, 2025, 03:59:10 PM
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Is it true that twaddle, which is one of “the stables” trainers that owned/owns Fourever boy and stiffed his partner for hundreds of thousands of dollars from purse money he never paid out to Micki Rae Stable? 🤦 regardless, he better thank the stable for keeping him in business. Friend sent him horse couple years ago and yanked it because he couldn’t afford to feed the horse for him. Overall, heard twadle fella is ok guy but shady and desperate. Just curious if that’s true about Fourever boy tho…
Jersey 💰
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If true- pretty scummy to do
Trains horses for the stable.ca
They also had MacMaster training too so very telling
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What a stupid post. Micki Rae Stables was the majority owner of all of the horses including Fourever boy and thus every check was written directly to Micki Rae stables. No purse money was ever in question.
I would love to tell you the whole story and I am working on putting it on paper. It is a story about a clueless owner who was being courted by a questionable expert and given terrible advice by this expert. MB could be "experts" initials. Twaddle never cheated them out of a dime and never did anything that was against their best interest. Buy me a beer to loosen my tongue and I will tell you a spellbinding story about a nincompoop owner with no class. When the story is finished you will respect Twaddle just like most of the Harness racing community respects him.
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Speaking of stories. Tell us how you feel about your boy Aaron's story, Samstar.
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I feel lucky that I was never pulled over when I was 1.65% how about you? Aaron is a great guy and I am proud to be his friend.
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I already admitted that I've driven when I shouldn't have. Not however on a suspended license.
Loyalty is a good quality. Judging by his actions and his disrespect for our public servants is a
testament to the fact that he is a lot of things but a 'GREAT GUY' isn't one of them.
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What a stupid post. Micki Rae Stables was the majority owner of all of the horses including Fourever boy and thus every check was written directly to Micki Rae stables. No purse money was ever in question.
I would love to tell you the whole story and I am working on putting it on paper. It is a story about a clueless owner who was being courted by a questionable expert and given terrible advice by this expert. MB could be "experts" initials. Twaddle never cheated them out of a dime and never did anything that was against their best interest. Buy me a beer to loosen my tongue and I will tell you a spellbinding story about a nincompoop owner with no class. When the story is finished you will respect Twaddle just like most of the Harness racing community respects him.
First owner listed on a horse gets the checks.
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twaddle horses seem to race very well most of the time
guys a lifer
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His big claim to fame: Won the Jugette driving Towner's Image. tmbz1
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I feel lucky that I was never pulled over when I was 1.65% how about you? Aaron is a great guy and I am proud to be his friend.
Great guy? He’s a piece of shit and so are you if you condone those types of actions! How about holding someone accountable? Scared he won’t drive your horses if you don’t continue to kiss his ass? People like you are part of his problem, never been held accountable for anything. Comes to the point they think they’re invincible.
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Whatever happened to the Micki Rae stable? After Forever Boys big year he bought a lot of yearlings. Did he switch to another Pa trainer? Whatever happened to Forever Boy?
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Great guy? He’s a piece of shit and so are you if you condone those types of actions! How about holding someone accountable? Scared he won’t drive your horses if you don’t continue to kiss his ass? People like you are part of his problem, never been held accountable for anything. Comes to the point they think they’re invincible.
he wont have to worry. he may not be driving anyones horses soon.
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Good! Driving horses is a privilege, he thinks they owe it to him. Just like a restaurant, they can refuse service to anyone for any legal reason. tmbz1
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Mark Beckwith put money in there pockets getting that thing going again . Horse was toast and 250 pounds underweight .
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As said, Tim is a lifer. The bottom line, which of course may be contrary to what is talked about on a BB, is that he well respected and well liked by his peers----people IN the sport and industry. Rumors and innuendos are just that. Owners and trainers split, and they split for countless reasons. The days of a Richard Staley and Doug Ackerman, or a Norman Woolworth and Stanley Dancer, are long gone. Again, for countless reasons.
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Owners do move around. what trainer did mikea rae go to? he bought a lot of young ones for decent money
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I know David. We are not friends, but having been in the business for a long time, we've seen each other around for years. This business is a small world. You see each other at the sales, at the track, at night, etc. Anyway, both David and Tim "announced" they were splitting up, sometime around Harrisburg. As for the rest, why, where David sent the horses, etc.---I won't speak to any of that.
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go ahead grandstand, do tell
not hard to figure as a few raced for alagna at the end of last year
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There's nothing to tell. I don't do the gossip thing or whatever you want to call it. I am just not wired that way.
Whatever the case was, is, who knows. If someone truly does, it's up to them whether they want to talk or not. And I don't care if they truly do or don't know. LOL. If they don't, again, it's nothing more than rumor and innuendo. Gray line between the two, LOL. Remember, it's a BB. LOL.
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Timmy T (Gazoo) is as good a person as you'll find.
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Tim is a lifer. He comes from the John Burns school. Early on when Burnsy was training for Harold Shipp, Tim was the stable driver. Tim has had a good career. He's a good horsemen.
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Hardie Hanover - Breeders Crown. Great guy wouldn't hurt a fly. Great set of hands, especially young trotters. When Burnsie and TT split, Harold gave the horses to TT. He's a lifer.
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Just a side story---Tim and David met because of a horse David bought from Bill Bercury. The horse wasn't doing well so David sent the horse to Tim, and that's where it all started.
Speaking of Bill.....is he still training? I met the guy once or twice, and I don't follow him at all, but I will say.....that guy always did very well, training just a few horses for himself.
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Yes, he does well with his horses. And condones the behavior of criminals that threaten police officers. tmbz1
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Speaking of Bill.....is he still training? I met the guy once or twice, and I don't follow him at all, but I will say.....that guy always did very well, training just a few horses for himself.
You talk to him here Grandstand. My understanding is Samstar is Bill Bercury. Still a massive high percentage trainer. Don't know why he gets such a hard time here.
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You talk to him here Grandstand. My understanding is Samstar is Bill Bercury. Still a massive high percentage trainer. Don't know why he gets such a hard time here.
Really?!?!? Thanks. I had no idea. I didn't know and truthfully, I just don't put that much thought into who someone is, isn't, etc. Like I've always said, it's a BB. LOL.
Anyway, Samstar or not, yes, he has been a very high percentage trainer. Very small stable, only trains for himself. I think for those reasons he might not be a household name so to speak. I don't know his track record, but he does seem to do very well.
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Tim is a lifer. He comes from the John Burns school. Early on when Burnsy was training for Harold Shipp, Tim was the stable driver. Tim has had a good career. He's a good horsemen.
John Burns and Tim Twaddle were VERY GOOD friends ;D
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Here comes more of the rumors, innuendos, and inferences.