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Title: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 15, 2025, 07:26:03 PM
It's really nice northfield park and The meadows are allowing him to race until he gets locked up. Maybe someone can even start a go fund me to help him off set his defense costs. I wonder if that police man who arrested him yet has googled him.
Itvshould be a privelage to drive race horses. not a right.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 15, 2025, 08:22:13 PM
It’s a joke.  Get a sense of humor.  Northfield and The Meadows should be embarrassed.  Both trash operations for allowing this.  They want the face of their track to be that guy?  Congrats to these two piece of shit operations!
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Stan durbread on February 15, 2025, 08:46:37 PM
Whatever he does outside of the track he is still the best driver at both those places. Not defending his actions but when was the last time you heard of a sports star, actor or politician get fired for a DUI?
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 15, 2025, 08:50:07 PM
It’s not just the dui.  Listen to the tape.  You want your organization associated with that?  A major consulting firm fired a guy just for the way he acted drunk at a football game. This is 10× worse! 
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 15, 2025, 09:51:39 PM
The go fund me was a joke.  These 2 race tracks should be ashamed of themselves.  Maybe the local news stations should report on it.  He wants to be famous. Make him famous. Or infamous I should say.
I'm not sure they will lower the charge on the dui. But I'm willing to bet the menacing charge gets reduced to something like disorderly conduct or some misdemeanor. So he will skate somehow.
usta,northfield and the meadows should be so ashamed they let him race.  The only reason they do is its a dying sport and  ot many people even know who he is.
Make him famous on the news.  The tracks will have to pull him. It's not hurting their image now cause no one watches and no one knows who he is or what he does. When he is at the cavs game people aren't like oh look there's aaron merriman I need his pic and autograph.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Brown jug on February 15, 2025, 09:58:52 PM
Should have been immediately suspended until he is cleared or jailed
tracks have the ability to do that and should have acted
pro athletes get suspended pending the results of an investigation all the time
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Bitter Truth on February 15, 2025, 10:29:46 PM
9 month jail time, $8000 fine, 5 year  driving suspension is my guess.
That's 'JUST ' for DUI.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Arrive7100 on February 15, 2025, 10:57:55 PM
Whatever he does outside of the track he is still the best driver at both those places. Not defending his actions but when was the last time you heard of a sports star, actor or politician get fired for a DUI?

He's NOT the best driver at the Meadows and has never finished higher than 3rd in the driver standings. He was 100 wins behind both Palone and Ronnie Wrenn last year.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 16, 2025, 07:54:50 AM
I agree he is the best driver at the meadows. And when ronnie is at Northfield he isnt the best driver there.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 16, 2025, 11:01:30 AM
Isn't the best driver. At meadows. Sorry for the typo
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: PIGLAND on February 16, 2025, 12:04:54 PM
no talen at all ,cant rate a horse just a carver
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: davenchop on February 16, 2025, 12:14:03 PM
no talen at all ,cant rate a horse just a carver



while i agree he isnt better than ronnie wrenn or palone he does have talent.. now
as a human hes got some pretty bad demons but he def is a good driver but does overdrive
more than he should
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Arrive7100 on February 16, 2025, 12:33:44 PM
Other than the top few, the driving colony at Meadows is mediocre at best. Even Palone, who's now 62 years old isn't the same driver he once was but has still been leading driver for well over 30 years in a row.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on February 16, 2025, 12:40:20 PM
I am sure people here will hear plenty of "word on the street" things. One member here probably is his life coach, therapist, agent, and responsible for his career, until he started drinking, LOL. Another member probably spoke with Aaron and is recommending Brian Joslyn get on the job ASAP, LOL. And who knows what else.

Look, I don't know, nor care, how much he makes, saves, has, whether he gambles his money away, or whatever. It's meaningless. Simply more BS from outsiders wanting to be insiders. He's an independent contractor. The tracks will do what they are going to do. That in and of itself will be telling and will speak to the tracks not Aaron. As it relates to Aaron, I don't care if F. Lee Bailey is resurrected and defends him. I just hope this is rock bottom, he makes a decision to get the help he needs, and he gets clean and sober.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: dougie on February 16, 2025, 01:43:38 PM
I listened to the tape. Just another drunk running his mouth. They'll play it in front of the Judge, who'll throw the book at him. He needs some help for his drinking problem.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on February 16, 2025, 02:05:55 PM
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Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 16, 2025, 03:18:16 PM
I would say aaron does over drive alot. But I would not able him a carver. He doesn't abuse one as a joe B would. I very rarely see him one hand one. If he does. He knows when theyvare done. And won't continue like others do.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on February 16, 2025, 05:19:29 PM
enough people write in the track will have no choice but to tell him to "take a hike"
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on February 16, 2025, 05:22:09 PM
memberservices@ustrotting.com
info@ohha.com
dbianconi@mgmnorthfieldpark.com
msoa@themsoa.com
traffic@dps.ohio.gov
info@clevelandpolicefoundation.org
vipsupport@madd.org
madd.oh@madd.org
news@fox8.com
news5@wews.com
newsdesk@wkyc.com
scene@clevescene.com
news@plaind.com
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Dingus on February 16, 2025, 07:12:06 PM
Haven’t seen anything written about his family and what they are doing.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 16, 2025, 07:17:00 PM
Probably same as they have done up to now, nothing!
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on February 16, 2025, 09:54:08 PM
Aaron is a volume shooter who has spent his whole career driving on the half.  He also drove a lot for Beaver when Ohio was on its knees.  At that time Beaver was the only one with any real stock because he had a lot of good Canadian mares he was still breeding in Ohio - only God knows why.  Those two things caused a lot of bad habits, ie go to the front and hope they get you there.  He is a terrible overdriver - especially with trotters - driving most like 1-2 shots.  I agree he isn’t a carver but have seen him scatter sire stake fields countless times by backing up through the field after taking a 15-1 through unrealistic front half fractions.  That isn’t even to say what he did to Clever Cody last year

You all are overestimating what the tracks and even the jurisdictions can do right now.  He does not work for the track - he is an independent contractor working for the trainer/owner.  Those that keep putting him down are who should be help accountable currently.  Once that he is proven guilty I’m sure the jurisdictions can then suspend his license.  All the tracks can do right now is make him blow pre-race
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 17, 2025, 06:29:43 AM
The Dallas Mavericks assistant coach was just put on leave after an arrest prior to being convicted.  His overall status will pend on the outcome of his charges.  So why not   A-A-Ron?  I rarely bet at Northfield and never bet The Meadows, so a boycott is pointless.  They should be ashamed of themselves!   tmbz1
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Parked on February 17, 2025, 07:32:01 AM
Tracks can do anything they want. 
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 17, 2025, 08:27:39 AM
No shit!  It's a terrible look not penalizing a piece of garbage like this!
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Kenny on February 17, 2025, 08:59:13 AM
In the US it is innocent until proven guilty.  Once there is a finding of guilty or innocent then it is time to talk about what actions the track do or should take.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on February 17, 2025, 09:29:58 AM
The Dallas Mavericks assistant coach was just put on leave after an arrest prior to being convicted.  His overall status will pend on the outcome of his charges.  So why not   A-A-Ron?  I rarely bet at Northfield and never bet The Meadows, so a boycott is pointless.  They should be ashamed of themselves!   tmbz1

He is employed by the Mavs, who have an employee handbook that outlines this sort of thing and is likely being paid while the legal process plays out.  If he is convicted he will be terminated with cause.  This idiot does not work for the tracks and therefore they can’t do anything right now with charges pending without fear of a lawsuit. 

Again the trainers and owners that keep putting him down are the real scum right now
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 17, 2025, 09:32:52 AM
did the ravens wait until ray rice was found guilty to cut him?
did the chiefs wait until kareem hunt was found guilty to cut him?
did the NBA wait until ja morant was found guilty to suspend him?
did the texans wait until deshaun watson was found guilty to sit him?
some of these people git second chances which i msure aaron will. but they were sat down before any verdict or even legal action was taken.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 17, 2025, 09:35:07 AM
He is employed by the Mavs, who have an employee handbook that outlines this sort of thing and is likely being paid while the legal process plays out.  If he is convicted he will be terminated with cause.  This idiot does not work for the tracks and therefore they can’t do anything right now with charges pending without fear of a lawsuit. 

Again the trainers and owners that keep putting him down are the real scum right now

they 100% can do something. people get told "WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU"  all the time.  happens a lot.  people are put on stop lists. i bet aarons checks come from MGM.    good look for MGM.   paying someone who acts like that. on video.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 17, 2025, 10:17:08 AM
In the US it is innocent until proven guilty.  Once there is a finding of guilty or innocent then it is time to talk about what actions the track do or should take.

Not when it comes to private companies.  They can choose to sit him on the bench until the matter is resolved.  But here's a thought...why not have him get some help instead of just pretending it didn't happen or that he's the victim here.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 17, 2025, 10:20:20 AM
he doesnt have a problem.  just ask him.  you cant help someone who doesnt want to help himself.  he should of been in treatment already. a judge would see that as someone who is remorseful and wanting to better themselves.
i wonder if he has to wear an alcohol monitor on his ankle.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Bitter Truth on February 17, 2025, 10:38:20 AM
Jenny if you go to the 'Asking for a friend' thread , page 18, I looked up and detail the penalties
[alcohol monitoring included] 'IF' indeed this is his 4th DUI. tmbz1
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on February 17, 2025, 12:17:23 PM
Don't forget, private property rights baby.

Here's the way an OH attorney explained it-----oversimplified-----when charged/arrested, the racing commission has the authority to suspend his license immediately. If they do, he will appeal, sue (due process and all), whatever; and probably win, get a stay, etc. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. If they don't suspend his license, OK, your license is fine, for the time being. NOW, the tracks themselves----with private ownership----they appear to have private property rights. They can say your license fine, but we don't want you. If they do, he can sue, but winning that is a tougher lift. If there is a documented history as to other reasons why they tossed him, even better, and for him to win is even tougher. Conduct that is detrimental to their business. Document it every time. Is it this simple? No, of course not. But it can give an idea as to how this may play out.

Personally, and I am not referring to this case, I never thought racing's governing bodies and the tracks did enough. In so many of the cases I've seen, trainers who got suspended always got some high-powered attorney, and the state, commission, and/or the track, got some hack and they got their a$$ handed to them (most of the time). Gural doesn't play like that. He plays to win and he hires killers who do win. Where's Howard Taylor by the way? Nevermind.

Apparently privately-held/owned businesses appear to have different rules here on this BB than they do in the real world, but it's the real world that counts.  ::)
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on February 17, 2025, 01:58:48 PM
did the ravens wait until ray rice was found guilty to cut him?
did the chiefs wait until kareem hunt was found guilty to cut him?
did the NBA wait until ja morant was found guilty to suspend him?
did the texans wait until deshaun watson was found guilty to sit him?
some of these people git second chances which i msure aaron will. but they were sat down before any verdict or even legal action was taken.


All these people were employed by these teams or agencies and the individual was placed on paid leave while the court proceedings played out.  This is not an equivalent. 

As Grandstand correctly stated - the tracks and commissions aren’t going to get over their skis for fear of a lawsuit.  Why spend the money defending a lawsuit now when it appears that on short order, once he is convicted, they will have the ability to do what they want with more standing - assuming bylaws contain something that can support a suspension.

I don’t know why everyone is so wrapped up in what the tracks and jurisdictions are doing when the trainers could solve this tomorrow.  He has a drive in every race at both tracks every night and has since the incident
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 17, 2025, 02:24:32 PM
i just dont think his drive checks come from bill bercury or bill rhoades.  he isnt paid directly by them. they may request he drive their horses for whatever the reason.
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: Harness racer on February 17, 2025, 02:32:08 PM
Business is full of scumbags with no morals.  People still put up Allard to drive.  What's that tell you about the business?  Trainers want the best driver, no matter if he's a pedophile or a drunk who has no respect for anyone.  What has Nance called it for years?  DEAD GAME LADDIES!!!
Title: Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
Post by: moelarrythecheese on February 17, 2025, 11:09:18 PM
Windows Tint? It’s Northfield, Ohio,not Death Valley.
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