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Title: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 09, 2025, 04:42:43 PM
This is for the fools that think baking soda doesn't help performance.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/household-item-turning-runners-world-140100081.html
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: SwankToliverA on March 09, 2025, 04:46:58 PM
Hey Mike! Welcome back, I hope all is well with you and yours.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 09, 2025, 04:48:50 PM
Hey Mike! Welcome back, I hope all is well with you and yours.
Right back at you Toli
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Stan durbread on March 09, 2025, 05:59:14 PM
Damn I wish I was smart enough to promote a bicarbonate program and market it in the 80’s when we all choked down an alkaseltzer with a bottle of water before football games
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Kenny on March 09, 2025, 06:09:35 PM
This is for the fools that think baking soda doesn't help performance.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/household-item-turning-runners-world-140100081.html

How many horsemen will be placing orders?

https://www.maurten.com/products/us/bicarb
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 09, 2025, 08:23:16 PM
How many horsemen will be placing orders?

https://www.maurten.com/products/us/bicarb
The dumb ones. The smart ones will continue using bicarb jugs.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 09, 2025, 10:07:45 PM
Pelling started the baking soda phenomenal. His horses were running off the screen at Meadowlands and nobody could figure out they thought he was a guru from down under.

He disappeared because he got in trouble and now he's back with newer and better drugs... How they allowed him back is beyond me
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Bitter Truth on March 09, 2025, 10:22:01 PM
I remember it differently. Uncle Bill Robinson + Monte Gelrod, I thought preceded him. tmbz1
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 09, 2025, 10:28:32 PM
I remember it differently. Uncle Bill Robinson + Monte Gelrod, I thought preceded him. tmbz1
Pelling was the first one to bring it around.. He has no heart he gave him a box of soda and a half a pound of confectionery sugar.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 09, 2025, 10:29:48 PM
I remember it differently. Uncle Bill Robinson + Monte Gelrod, I thought preceded him. tmbz1
tmbz1 those two were a little more vicious they would throw an OJ along with the shake. You could throw Dave Elliott in the mix.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 09, 2025, 10:34:44 PM
Pelling went home down under he vanished like a fart in the wind. Can't remember what happened.

Then he miraculously reappeared with new chemicals and they let the motherfucker race go figure that out.


You would think SCM would know what happened but nothing he's as useless as tits on a boar hog.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: carl baldwin on March 09, 2025, 11:21:14 PM
Pelling started the baking soda phenomenal. His horses were running off the screen at Meadowlands and nobody could figure out they thought he was a guru from down under.

He disappeared because he got in trouble and now he's back with newer and better drugs... How they allowed him back is beyond me
Brett's father Brian Pelling raced in the Chicagoland area during the 1980s until his departure to Florida and a couple of his horses raced huge, Prince Shavid N. was one of them.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: old guy on March 09, 2025, 11:37:10 PM
You’re all slightly wrong. Crogan
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Mohawk mac on March 10, 2025, 01:10:26 AM
Brett's father Brian Pelling raced in the Chicagoland area during the 1980s until his departure to Florida and a couple of his horses raced huge, Prince Shavid N. was one of them.

Couple of minor corrections and additions.  Brian is his step-father.  Horse's name was Prince Sharvid N.  Brian got suspended for 5 years for fixing a race.  https://www.chicagotribune.com/1987/12/18/maywood-suspends-2-in-trifecta-manipulation/
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: toothman on March 10, 2025, 08:32:42 AM
Rene Poulin
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on March 10, 2025, 08:40:11 AM
Pelling was the first one to bring it around.. He has no heart he gave him a box of soda and a half a pound of confectionery sugar.

LOL - are you crazy?  Tom Artandi was using soda on Goalie Jeff.  Brett Pelling didn't bring baking soda around. 
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Third Over on March 10, 2025, 12:12:47 PM
You’re all slightly wrong. Crogan
Absolutely correct.. Crogan started it in Cali and Pelling was his right hand man..
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 10, 2025, 04:33:11 PM
Dr. Borthwick and Dr. Woods were pre-racing with bicarb jugs long before any of those clowns from down under ever set foot on US soil.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: carl baldwin on March 10, 2025, 05:14:21 PM
Dr. Borthwick and Dr. Woods were pre-racing with bicarb jugs long before any of those clowns from down under ever set foot on US soil.
What year?
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Papillon on March 10, 2025, 05:49:11 PM
Couple of minor corrections and additions.  Brian is his step-father.  Horse's name was Prince Sharvid N.  Brian got suspended for 5 years for fixing a race.  https://www.chicagotribune.com/1987/12/18/maywood-suspends-2-in-trifecta-manipulation/

thanks for posting this

the trifecta paid what about what would be expected for $3

unless bets were made in other pools with bookmakers-there isn't anything in the payoffs that would point to a fixed race

the investigation is still open from 1987 apparently
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Lance on March 10, 2025, 06:32:47 PM
I don’t remember who started using it first….i just remember seeing guys with that thick, sticky white liquid all over their faces.  It was messy .
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 10, 2025, 06:38:30 PM
Dr. Borthwick and Dr. Woods were pre-racing with bicarb jugs long before any of those clowns from down under ever set foot on US soil.
Malcolm Borthwick was big with a foot block and the bicarbonate jugs that did not have the same effect as a box of soda and confectionery sugar nowhere near it.

Make no mistake about it... the down under people were responsible for the destruction of harness racing the French Canadians they didn't help matters any
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 10, 2025, 08:26:03 PM
What year?
I got to Liberty Bell in 1977 and they were already using bicarb jugs.
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Mohawk mac on March 10, 2025, 08:31:01 PM
Here is some more info Papillon.  I believe the investigation was completed late 1980's or early 1990's.  Brian appealed his 5 year suspension in 1991.  It was denied.  He applied for a training license each year for quite a few years after he served his 5 years before the Illinois Racing Board finally relented and he trained one or two for a while.  Nothing like his massive pre suspension stable.

https://casetext.com/case/pelling-v-illinois-racing-board

thanks for posting this

the trifecta paid what about what would be expected for $3

unless bets were made in other pools with bookmakers-there isn't anything in the payoffs that would point to a fixed race

the investigation is still open from 1987 apparently
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 10, 2025, 08:38:33 PM
Malcolm Borthwick was big with a foot block and the bicarbonate jugs that did not have the same effect as a box of soda and confectionery sugar nowhere near it.

Make no mistake about it... the down under people were responsible for the destruction of harness racing the French Canadians they didn't help matters any
The ingredient that is performance enhancing is the baking soda. The point of adding confectionary sugar and wind aid was so baking soda made it to blood stream and didn't pass straight through to the hind gut and out of the horse's ass. A bicarb jug eliminated that process, as it was injected straight into blood stream. 
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: KING HAKU on March 10, 2025, 10:16:50 PM
The ingredient that is performance enhancing is the baking soda. The point of adding confectionary sugar and wind aid was so baking soda made it to blood stream and didn't pass straight through to the hind gut and out of the horse's ass. A bicarb jug eliminated that process, as it was injected straight into blood stream.
I get it.. You know I forgot about the wind aid! I remember Elliott was using the famous OJ
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 11, 2025, 12:45:48 AM
I get it.. You know I forgot about the wind aid! I remember Elliott was using the famous OJ
tmbz1
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: firebolt on March 11, 2025, 01:19:37 AM
The pink pills were great
Title: Re: Baking Soda
Post by: Kenny on March 11, 2025, 10:43:08 AM
The dumb ones. The smart ones will continue using bicarb jugs.

The smart ones who will be getting the TCO2 positives?
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