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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: camfan12 on March 11, 2025, 02:16:16 PM
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Can somebody post the Rules that were broken?
https://ustrottingnews.com/seven-sanctioned-by-usta-board-after-srif-investigation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI9XJdleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHcRWKMKE-iMZfzSiPK6u9Tni151nHRv1EQXfXaEguCjrmj0t6yq0l3BteA_aem_I6HzndV--RiyCv2mhIcAuA (https://ustrottingnews.com/seven-sanctioned-by-usta-board-after-srif-investigation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI9XJdleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHcRWKMKE-iMZfzSiPK6u9Tni151nHRv1EQXfXaEguCjrmj0t6yq0l3BteA_aem_I6HzndV--RiyCv2mhIcAuA)
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This is interesting.
Gingras made the list ngc3 73cv.2
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thats quite the list
would be nice to know the details
diamond creek and its boys seemed to have some issues
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here's a link to the rules, just scroll through until you find the rule number you are looking for.
https://www.ustrotting.com/assets/pdf/USTARuleBook.pdf
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Rumor has it Nick Surick had a burner phone in jail still buying and selling horses. This guy is a disease.
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Benson just bought a few on ongait
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Rumor has it Nick Surick had a burner phone in jail still buying and selling horses. This guy is a disease.
Can this be confirmed ASAP!!
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Benson and Surick were partners on the mares Benson has been trying to sell on OnGait. DC sold them breeding’s and even kept one of the mares. YG sold a breeding to TDS. Yontz is Anvil and Lace farm she cooperated and that’s why her fine was rescinded.
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No Crawford farms mentioned? And why no suspension for Adam or Yannick?
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In plain language, what did Yannick do?
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Can this be confirmed ASAP!!
NO
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Says in one reply that he sold a breeding to TDS and he knew it was really for Surick.
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Benson and Surick were partners on the mares Benson has been trying to sell on OnGait. DC sold them breeding’s and even kept one of the mares. YG sold a breeding to TDS. Yontz is Anvil and Lace farm she cooperated and that’s why her fine was rescinded.
So they fined DC and it’s employees $40k for selling a breeding??
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If they knew it was for Surick it was deserved.
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At the end of the day, as far as I am concerned, the real question is..........other than revoke your membership, what does the USTA have the right to do?
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At this point you hope all the jurisdictions support it and honor them also. But on their own, usta has very little power.
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Some, many ? Tracks require USTA membership. Maybe they can refuse to register foals \ horses they buy ?
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Some, many ? Tracks require USTA membership. Maybe they can refuse to register foals \ horses they buy ?
No States require USTA membership. A few will deny a state license based on USTA rulings but there are a few don’t. Once any of those states give someone a license the USTA cannot do anything except charge a little extra for eligibility papers due to not being a member
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All this says to me is if you wanna pay a speeding ticket go ahead and fuck everyone. Adam sends the vet in the midnight blood draw and get 5000. Then does dealings with Nick Surick from prison on a burner phone and gets 28k. What about all the yearlings Nicks GF Nancy ran up in Lexington that were DC owned or consigned for Nick? How many people got fucked on that little scam?
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All this says to me is if you wanna pay a speeding ticket go ahead and fuck everyone. Adam sends the vet in the midnight blood draw and get 5000. Then does dealings with Nick Surick from prison on a burner phone and gets 28k. What about all the yearlings Nicks GF Nancy ran up in Lexington that were DC owned or consigned for Nick? How many people got fucked on that little scam?
Who is Nancy?
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And were exactly does this $98K go to?
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Surick already plotting his comeback for 2026. He’ll be released in a year and a half. If prison doesn’t stop him, then I don’t know what will.
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And were exactly does this $98K go to?
Excellent question Kirby, I'd love to know the answer to.
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Honest question. If USTA is merely a "record-keeping" agency. What legal authority do they have to impose fines? Wouldn't this be better handled by the racing commissions who have actual legal authority? Why hasn't the results of their "investigation been turned over to those agencies for actual enforcement?
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Nobody outside of racing gives a hoot. All the criminal activity was turned over to the states for prosecution in the FBI bust. How many were brought up on state charges.
Even that hump Cohen, who testified on the stand he fixed races at Yonkers with some of the accused.
Nobody with any political or police power gives two shits about harness racing.
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Nobody outside of racing gives a hoot. All the criminal activity was turned over to the states for prosecution in the FBI bust. How many were brought up on state charges.
Even that hump Cohen, who testified on the stand he fixed races at Yonkers with some of the accused.
Nobody with any political or police power gives two shits about harness racing.
Kind of crazy if you think about it, however Exporter is spot on 99.99% of people don’t care. Buggy racing is rife with carnival people and this is what you get.
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Who is Nancy?
Takter
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sacrifical offering, won't stop anything. No one will stop doing business with any of them. BIG SHOW
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the NYT article comes out blasting the industry and poof all of a sudden they want to make it look like they care and are doing something good by the industry. nice try though.
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i am not aware of the connection between surrick, takter and diamond creek
but would love to hear more
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Give them credit the USTA seems to be doing what they can......
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Give them credit the USTA seems to be doing what they can......
I see it as nothing more than posturing, grandstanding, and trying to be something they are not. I also think it's an effort to be invited to the eventual party when HISA takes over, and/or when actual regulatory agencies are forced to step up and do what they haven't done in the past.
That said, in NJ, to be an owner and race horses you DO NOT need to be a member of the USTA. As a driver, I don't know. As a breeder, I don't know, but being that the USTA can revoke your membership, my thinking is that-----perhaps-----they can refuse your foal registration(s), and your ability to "participate" and "operate" as a breeder. However, I don't know. All this is because people did business with Nick Surick. You reap what you sow.
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what do you get for being a member?
if you dont need to be a member. whats the point.
just a scam for money??/
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what do you get for being a member?
if you dont need to be a member. whats the point.
just a scam for money??/
absolutely zero reason to be a member.
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I see it as nothing more than posturing, grandstanding, and trying to be something they are not. I also think it's an effort to be invited to the eventual party when HISA takes over, and/or when actual regulatory agencies are forced to step up and do what they haven't done in the past.
That said, in NJ, to be an owner and race horses you DO NOT need to be a member of the USTA. As a driver, I don't know. As a breeder, I don't know, but being that the USTA can revoke your membership, my thinking is that-----perhaps-----they can refuse your foal registration(s), and your ability to "participate" and "operate" as a breeder. However, I don't know. All this is because people did business with Nick Surick. You reap what you sow.
Your are greatly misinformed on ownership,
As far as driver trainer , owner in NJ if NJRC say you don’t have to be a USTA member then when a non member claims a horse or has one claimed they will not transfer that horse until all are members, & if you owe one of these sanction fines then you would have to pay it.
This move is parallel to say living in an apartment complex that has assigned parking and you park in the wrong spot
You don’t a fine from the complex. If you don’t pay it then when you move out comes off your security deposit. Own a home with HOA and they put a lean on your house.
So DC will not be able to register any foals stallions with USTA.
What supposed to happen is every state racing commission needs to have a just cause hearing , bring them in and charge all of them.
The interesting thing about the USTA is they never did any sanction on the wire taps of Surrick talking with the trainer he sent the horse too who assured him he would and had given her EPO or who was the trainer at PCD that Guido said drop dead on the track.