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Title: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 10, 2025, 09:49:49 AM
Well there is one thing Harness Racing is #1 at! You kill more of your athletes in one week than every other sport has combined in centuries. The only other "sport" would be The Roman Gladiators that even comes close. Feel free to respond, but no matter what you say the truth is the truth. Bunch of horse killing douchebags living off money you don't deserve. Horse killing welfare recipients. BTW, look at all the positive press the industry has been getting lately!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kole Hanover on April 10, 2025, 11:06:50 AM

 Bottle collecting world championships?

 Biggest pest on the East Coast?

 National Woman Harrassing?
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 10, 2025, 11:19:32 AM
Bottle collecting world championships?

 Biggest pest on the East Coast?

 National Woman Harrassing?

Aww look, another Canadian who supports horse abuse! How fast they come when I call.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 17, 2025, 09:41:08 PM
T-breds by a wide margin, probably near 10x more. Numbers will also climb in girls/womans sport as the dems cant just seem to see an issue with men making believe they are girls.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 18, 2025, 10:41:05 AM
A big part of it is because horse racing has so many more athletes (horses and people) than any other pro sport.....
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 10:43:47 AM
A big part of it is because horse racing has so many more athletes (horses and people) than any other pro sport.....

Ok? And it takes no responsibility for the animals it creates to profit off revenue handed to it by states. Disgusting. Standardbreds are an amazing breed and in the end are treated like trash. FACT.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 11:35:22 AM
Well there is one thing Harness Racing is #1 at! You kill more of your athletes in one week than every other sport has combined in centuries. The only other "sport" would be The Roman Gladiators that even comes close. Feel free to respond, but no matter what you say the truth is the truth. Bunch of horse killing douchebags living off money you don't deserve. Horse killing welfare recipients. BTW, look at all the positive press the industry has been getting lately!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Mountain climbing, probably hiking, wingsuit flying.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 11:37:23 AM
Mountain climbing, probably hiking, wingsuit flying.

First of all not even close. And don't those people choose to do what they do?
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 11:38:12 AM
First of all not even close. And don't those people choose to do what they do?

More than close...

Show your sources...

More hikers die hiking than standardbreds die racing.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 11:48:27 AM
More than close...

Show your sources...

More hikers die hiking than standardbreds die racing.

Hmm... How many hikers die being sent to kill pens? I rest my case.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: helpplease on April 18, 2025, 12:18:09 PM
Mount Everest & K2 climbers by a landslide. (No pun intended)
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Steven Mannygoat on April 18, 2025, 12:20:04 PM
OP is a complete simp
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 12:38:42 PM
Hmm... How many hikers die being sent to kill pens? I rest my case.

You provide no support for your statements. That is not racing.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 18, 2025, 05:24:38 PM
Good question. Pro-rata? Maybe "professional" wrestling? Probably not when you count both equine and human athletes, but I don't think that would be a fair comparison.

Both t-breds and s-breds are a very dangerous sport. What do they say, the only sport where an ambulance follows you around? Between equine and human athletes in both sports, deaths and career ending injuries, the numbers simply aren't good.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 05:48:20 PM
Horses don't have a choice and in the end most are tossed ending up in kill pens. They're nothing more than the vehicle used to profit. And that's a fact.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 05:50:26 PM
Horses don't have a choice and in the end most are tossed ending up in kill pens. They're nothing more than the vehicle used to profit. And that's a fact.


You used the word "most" but provide no proof so it is false.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 05:51:40 PM
Good question. Pro-rata? Maybe "professional" wrestling? Probably not when you count both equine and human athletes, but I don't think that would be a fair comparison.

Both t-breds and s-breds are a very dangerous sport. What do they say, the only sport where an ambulance follows you around? Between equine and human athletes in both sports, deaths and career ending injuries, the numbers simply aren't good.

How many standardbreds die from racing? 
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 05:56:43 PM
How many standardbreds die from racing?

Never said that, you have ADD? But if you really wanna mince words....ALL OF THEM. Since that is what they're manufactured to do. How many don't make it? How many break down? Do they find homes? Why does SRF have 350 on the books at any given time? Why do they euthanize so many at the end of each year? How many thousands go through kill pens? Why are there hundreds each month posted on social media in kill pens ready for shipment to slaughter? You already lost the argument and missed the actual point trying to distract yourself from reality. Then you have the ones that end up with the Amish and the ones I find pulling carriages. So yeah, your industry does a "wonderful" job of using them then tossing them. FACT  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 18, 2025, 06:12:30 PM
Horses don't have a choice and in the end most are tossed ending up in kill pens. They're nothing more than the vehicle used to profit. And that's a fact.

You heard it here everyone. I just want to memorialize it before it's edited. "Most."

"Most"---definition:
greatest in amount, quantity, or degree; nearly all, almost all, the majority, the preponderance, to the greatest extent.

OK, OK, so, let's not even go there, and just say "most" means majority. Is that 51%? 66%? 75? 90? Most.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 06:32:07 PM
You heard it here everyone. I just want to memorialize it before it's edited. "Most."

"Most"---definition:
greatest in amount, quantity, or degree; nearly all, almost all, the majority, the preponderance, to the greatest extent.

OK, OK, so, let's not even go there, and just say "most" means majority. Is that 51%? 66%? 75? 90? Most.

Most = THOUSANDS of Standardbreds trashed when the "industry" is done with them. Thanks for agreeing!!!!
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 06:34:41 PM
I'm sorry. Harness racing does benefit two other industries. Kill pens and slaughterhouses outside the US.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 06:37:19 PM
Remember, even Mark Ford offered a service to rid yourselves of those pesky Standardbreds that weren't making any money. Scumbags. https://youtu.be/vnqUC1ZCbow
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: wisha roder on April 18, 2025, 07:16:36 PM
What a stupid thread. You are a fucktard.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Brown jug on April 18, 2025, 07:58:40 PM
 Mr Revolution
what is your answer to deal with horses at the end of their racing career whenever that is
these horses are bred with one purpose, to be race horses
i know a lot of people work hard to give them homes after they are done racing
by the way you think the NFL does right by players, all kinds of the old players die early , a lot with cte, some kill themselves
it appears your answer is to eliminate harness racing ?
i guess you also feel the NFL should be shut down as well
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 08:01:08 PM
Mr Revolution
what is your answer to deal with horses at the end of their racing career whenever that is
these horses are bred with one purpose, to be race horses
i know a lot of people work hard to give them homes after they are done racing
by the way you think the NFL does right by players, all kinds of the old players die early , a lot with cte, some kill themselves
it appears your answer is to eliminate harness racing ?
i guess you also feel the NFL should be shut down as well

Wow, perfect. I am SO glad you asked. Well since your industry has no real aftercare for ALL in not even closer to ALL of them. Take away the free money supporting the dead industry and slow the BREEDING to a crawl!!! Thanks for playing!!!!
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: MCR on April 18, 2025, 08:18:48 PM
Sad thing is you can only talk about/report the ones we know
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 08:24:49 PM
Sad thing is you can only talk about/report the ones we know

I am STUNNED by how little people actually care about them.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Deadbeat on April 18, 2025, 08:55:48 PM
I am STUNNED by how little people actually care about them.

I’m STUNNED you can afford internet.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 09:01:31 PM
I’m STUNNED you can afford internet.

I STUNNED you can spell internet.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 18, 2025, 09:05:16 PM
I’m STUNNED you can afford internet.

Did you really say this? Holy shitballs aren't you another special kind of stupid. Bad enough M1 races TM 68, 7500 claimers and amateurs in every race. So let's fill it with horses from the track THAT JUST FUCKING CLOSED FOR GOOD because nobody BET IT!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Kenny on April 18, 2025, 11:05:05 PM
Did you really say this? Holy shitballs aren't you another special kind of stupid. Bad enough M1 races TM 68, 7500 claimers and amateurs in every race. So let's fill it with horses from the track THAT JUST FUCKING CLOSED FOR GOOD because nobody BET IT!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Why are you even here? Why don't you join PETA?  Instead you whine on a board with an audience the size of a theater showing the Snow White movie. You are beyond pathetic.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 19, 2025, 10:15:02 AM
How many dogs and cats are put down every year at shelters?  Horses are livestock. You may not like it but there are millions of starving people in the world that would love to see horse meat more available
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Brown jug on April 19, 2025, 10:19:28 AM
Mr Revolution, another question
so what happened to the horses in the past after they were done racing
i can appreciate that perhaps there are more horses today than 40 years ago ( but maybe not) but what did Stanley Dancer and William Haughton etc do with their horses after they  were finished racing
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 19, 2025, 03:58:49 PM
Mr Revolution, another question
so what happened to the horses in the past after they were done racing
i can appreciate that perhaps there are more horses today than 40 years ago ( but maybe not) but what did Stanley Dancer and William Haughton etc do with their horses after they  were finished racing
Just to clarify the breeding numbers are way down over last 40 years. Only difference today is that the Karen’s think every animal you buy you should keep forever. But they represent a small number of Americans that think all animals should live in the house with you. Most have never been around a live horse. MP was a trainer apparently. Maybe he could provide a list of every horse in his stable and what happened when the couldn’t compete. From his USTA records he should have a few in his back yard
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 21, 2025, 04:27:51 PM
Horses don't have a choice and in the end most are tossed ending up in kill pens. They're nothing more than the vehicle used to profit. And that's a fact.

Neither do humans, we have to work and got no choice. So whats your point? You have a bad argument on that. Humans too are a vehicle used to to profit. Again whats your point. Where are your stats on "most are end up in kill pens"? Thats BS and you know that. I guess in your mind we should not even breed horses anymore since they can only be "abused" or at least in your definition of abused. Heck, since we humans to are in the same circumstances as the horses, we should not exist in this world as we just are abused ourselves, no less abuse the planet. 
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 21, 2025, 04:41:28 PM
Most?!?!?! If he says it quickly and enough times, people may start to believe it. Most, yeah, right. One is too many, but only the heretic would spew most.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 21, 2025, 04:55:42 PM
Most?!?!?! If he says it quickly and enough times, people may start to believe it. Most, yeah, right. One is too many, but only the heretic would spew most.

Oh, he takes the old dem's approach. Like if you say girls can be boys enough, it must be true.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 05:53:29 PM
Neither do humans, we have to work and got no choice. So whats your point? You have a bad argument on that. Humans too are a vehicle used to to profit. Again whats your point. Where are your stats on "most are end up in kill pens"? Thats BS and you know that. I guess in your mind we should not even breed horses anymore since they can only be "abused" or at least in your definition of abused. Heck, since we humans to are in the same circumstances as the horses, we should not exist in this world as we just are abused ourselves, no less abuse the planet.

Standardbreds are bred for what? Who pays the tab? How many end up in kill pens because there's no accountability for the animals after the fact? 350 at SRF alone at any given moment. 100s in kill pens, and those freeze brands give up their story. How did they get there, ran away from home? Why am I finding ex racehorses pulling a carriage hin Central Park??? Job security? You create them, you dump them. Fact.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 05:56:24 PM
Standardbreds are bred for what? Who pays the tab? How many end up in kill pens because there's no accountability for the animals after the fact? 350 at SRF alone at any given moment. 100s in kill pens, and those freeze brands give up their story. How did they get there, ran away from home? Why am I finding ex racehorses pulling a carriage hin Central Park??? Job security? You create them, you dump them. Fact.
Why do you have humans that worked all they can to get by and are crippled now?  Why do so many cats and dogs get put down every day by shelters?? Life happens
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 05:57:46 PM
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 05:58:17 PM
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 05:59:52 PM
Trapped in a fence for nobody knows how long in an SRF satellite field. Nice.
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:06:41 PM
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:08:48 PM
How many brands are mutilated so we can't ID them??? What are you hiding?
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:09:14 PM
I see nothing that resembles a race horse barn in your pictures
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:10:58 PM
How many brands are mutilated so we can't ID them??? What are you hiding?
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So Mike you claim you were once a standard bred trainer. Please post information on every horse that came through your barn. Or simply post pictures of all of them now
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:17:32 PM
So Mike you claim you were once a standard bred trainer. Please post information on every horse that came through your barn. Or simply post pictures of all of them now

First of all, I worked for someone else most of the time. As for "mine". Not a one was sent down the wrong path. Either passed onto the next trainer OR died in our backyard and were buried there. Selling a horse back into the game to a new owner isn't sending them to the Amish or a kill pen. Last horse I trained is living in his owner's backyard right now, and he was going on the truck lame before we got him. Lemme tell ya right now, I am NOT one of your typical harness racing scumbags that treats these horses like trash. Try again fuckface.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 21, 2025, 06:19:24 PM
Trapped in a fence for nobody knows how long in an SRF satellite field. Nice.
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Other than a picture, and an allegation-----do you have any proof or supporting documentation that a random picture you have posted was taken at an SRF location? I for one think Peter Gerry, Judy Bokman, and isn't Mike Gulotta still on the Board of SRF, would want to know about this.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:20:27 PM
First of all, I worked for someone else most of the time. As for "mine". Not a one was sent down the wrong path. Either passed onto the next trainer OR died in our backyard and were buried there. Selling a horse back into the game to a new owner isn't sending them to the Amish or a kill pen. Last horse I trained is living in his owner's backyard right now, and he was going on the truck lame before we got him. Lemme tell ya right now, I am NOT one of your typical harness racing scumbags that treats these horses like trash. Try again fuckface.
When you sold one to a new trainer did you follow them and buy them back before the went Amish or to a kill buyer?
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:20:56 PM
When you sold one to a new trainer did you follow them and buy them back before the went Amish or to a kill buyer?
Pathetic that you people will project what your industry does to these horses toward me. Fucking sad sacks of shit aren't you?
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:21:33 PM
When you sold one to a new trainer did you follow them and buy them back before the went Amish or to a kill buyer?

I didn't sell them. The owner did.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:23:19 PM
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:24:48 PM
I didn't sell them. The owner did.  tmbz1
Did you go buy them back?  After all you made money on the training bill. So according to your post you are just as responsible
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:27:38 PM
Did you go buy them back?  After all you made money on the training bill. So according to your post you are just as responsible

Did I breed them? Nope. With me they were cared for properly. Did my job. Your INDUSTRY living off welfare sends them here.... Thus I learned, and now I'll do whatever I can to help end your industry.  tmbz1
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:30:22 PM
BTW, The NY Times will be doing another story on your "industry" in the not too distant future including even more from me plus what Mr. Bourgault gets for beating a Standardbred to death. I haven't see that kind of story anywhere else except harness racing.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:31:55 PM
Here's one tagged, it's either a home or meat!  tmbz1
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: wisha roder on April 21, 2025, 06:33:06 PM
I’m reading between the lines and i have a strong feeling you are a t-bred fan trashing harness racing. You should be foxusing on the tragic on track breakdowns of t-breds.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:34:09 PM
BTW, The NY Times will be doing another story on your "industry" in the not too distant future including even more from me plus what Mr. Bourgault gets for beating a Standardbred to death. I haven't see that kind of story anywhere else except harness racing.  tmbz1
I didn’t ask if you bred them I asked if you bought them and gave them a forever home. Or did you just let some poor animal that fed you while the owner was in your barn die??)
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:35:37 PM
I’m reading between the lines and i have a strong feeling you are a t-bred fan trashing harness racing. You should be foxusing on the tragic on track breakdowns of t-breds.
Sadly no he is a bust out harness trainer that wants everyone but him to care for the horses forever
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:37:15 PM
Now he is blaming the owners for getting rid of horses he couldn’t compete with. But doesn’t feel the responsibility to care for horses that fed his family
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:39:48 PM
Sadly no he is a bust out harness trainer that wants everyone but him to care for the horses forever

Never hurt one, never killed one, never filled one with God knows what YOU put in them. And yes, you make them, you carry them till they die. Too fucking bad if you don't like it. This is 2025 and the general public knows the truth about your "industry". And there's not a damn thing you can do to stop me from telling the truth to people who will end you. You actually brag about being a "trainer" in a corrupt business. Like anyone on the fucking planet is impressed.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:40:39 PM
Now he is blaming the owners for getting rid of horses he couldn’t compete with. But doesn’t feel the responsibility to care for horses that fed his family

Who puts the horse into a kill pen? Or sells to the Amish? Start there....
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 21, 2025, 06:41:04 PM
Did I breed them? Nope. With me they were cared for properly. Did my job. Your INDUSTRY living off welfare sends them here.... Thus I learned, and now I'll do whatever I can to help end your industry.  tmbz1

Well, at least we now know his motivations; and that he will do whatever he can to end this sport and industry. A sport and industry that shunned him. I see the hatred toward a sport and industry where he was unable to accomplish anything substantial, unable to be successful, unable to get ahead in any way, destined for mediocrity at best. That's where the hatred comes from.

I question whether "whatever" he can will cross the line into illegal activities. I for one believe he has misrepresented, lied, and make accusations/allegations without proof. I guess accountability has not place here. I wonder why.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:43:36 PM
Never hurt one, never killed one, never filled one with God knows what YOU put in them. And yes, you make them, you carry them till they die. Too fucking bad if you don't like it. This is 2025 and the general public knows the truth about your "industry". And there's not a damn thing you can do to stop me from telling the truth to people who will end you. You actually brag about being a "trainer" in a corrupt business. Like anyone on the fucking planet is impressed.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Do post names of every one you profited off. We can look them up and decide for ourselves if you really did the right thing with all of them
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:43:51 PM
Well, at least we now know his motivations; and that he will do whatever he can to end this sport and industry. A sport and industry that shunned him. I see the hatred toward a sport and industry where he was unable to accomplish anything substantial, unable to be successful, unable to get ahead in any way, destined for mediocrity at best. That's where the hatred comes from.

I question whether "whatever" he can will cross the line into illegal activities. I for one believe he has misrepresented, lied, and make accusations/allegations without proof. I guess accountability has not place here. I wonder why.

My information was used in the Sunday Times, and I'm damn proud of it. How's your industry doing? You who posts bullshit anonymously speaks of truth and accountability?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Ask Fred Bourgault how he's doing after I made one phone call. And yes I will continue to feed the right people the facts they can use to end your industry welfare.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:44:48 PM
Do post names of every one you profited off. We can look them up and decide for ourselves if you really did the right thing with all of them

Profited? I lost money, like you said I'm a bustout trainer. I'll post every horse I ever had contact with that I can remember....right after you post proof of who you are.   11.wp
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:48:31 PM
Profited? I lost money, like you said I'm a bustout trainer. I'll post every horse I ever had contact with that I can remember....right after you post proof of who you are.   11.wp
If you were dumb enough to train a horse for an owner at a lose that is your problem. You seem to expect every other trainer to go get them back and feed forever
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 06:51:11 PM
Interesting. Even Judy Bokman posts these numbers that as of 2018 SRF rescued over 3000 STANDARDBREDS. Just one of dozens and dozens of rescues. 300 are on the property at any given time and about half were homed. By the welfare industry.  tmbz1
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Stan durbread on April 21, 2025, 06:55:34 PM
Interesting. Even Judy Bokman posts these numbers that as of 2018 SRF rescued over 3000 STANDARDBREDS. Just one of dozens and dozens of rescues. 300 are on the property at any given time and about half were homed. By the welfare industry.  tmbz1
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Sadly SRF spends way too much money on horses that can’t be rehomed. Over 1/2 the horses they are feeding should have been given a carrot and a pink shot 2 years ago. But that is not the subject here. How many you profit off do you still support
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 21, 2025, 07:31:32 PM
I think I figured Harness Racing Revolution out, a few possibilities:
1. Very disgruntled owner/trainer who had no success and now feels compelled to strike out at everyone
2. Killed a few horses and now feels very guilty so he must show the world how good he is.
3. Works for the T-breds or the casino's.
4. Just a demented person who hates the whole world in general because his life is a mess.
5. Someone who believes he knows everything and must let everyone know how intelligent, moral and just a person he is.

Has to be one of those because his hatred is liken to the idiots who burn Tesla's. Otherwise why would he come to this site? Or maybe just an egotistical person looking for a medal. 
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Mazola on April 21, 2025, 07:56:55 PM
I think I figured Harness Racing Revolution out, a few possibilities:
1. Very disgruntled owner/trainer who had no success and now feels compelled to strike out at everyone
2. Killed a few horses and now feels very guilty so he must show the world how good he is.
3. Works for the T-breds or the casino's.
4. Just a demented person who hates the whole world in general because his life is a mess.
5. Someone who believes he knows everything and must let everyone know how intelligent, moral and just a person he is.

Has to be one of those because his hatred is liken to the idiots who burn Tesla's. Otherwise why would he come to this site? Or maybe just an egotistical person looking for a medal.

Seriously?
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 21, 2025, 08:07:05 PM
My information was used in the Sunday Times, and I'm damn proud of it. How's your industry doing? You who posts bullshit anonymously speaks of truth and accountability?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Ask Fred Bourgault how he's doing after I made one phone call. And yes I will continue to feed the right people the facts they can use to end your industry welfare.  tmbz1

The difference is that I am not making any claims that warrant me disclosing my identity. You are. You are asking people to believe everything you post, every accusation you make, every allegation, etc. All I offer is observations, and in this case about you. Show the proof. It's simple. Rather than post an obscure photo and claim it's an SRF horse, show the proof. That's a big allegation. Prove it. Rather than show some obscure video and say this guy, that guy, is a horse killer, show the proof.

You see I am sure you took all of this to every one you possibly could. Yet, Ray, Mark Ford, Steve Jones, all the people you keep posting about-----they are still in business and operating. I guess your proof is just not good enough. Or perhaps it's not real.

Lastly, just to add some clarity as to who I am, like I told you, don't worry, I will make sure next time we bump into each other, I introduce myself to you. When you realize I am not the original owner you said I was, the one after that, and most recently David Glasser, I am sure you will have some ranting and raving and more BS to deflect away from the fact that you are simply wrong.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Deadbeat on April 21, 2025, 08:18:42 PM
I can see why you no longer train horses.
On that same note- please give details on how you saved these horses. You had a chance to. Close to home. No bus rides to NYC necessary. You clearly couldn’t save their racing careers so hopefully you found them all homes.
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 08:26:54 PM
If you were dumb enough to train a horse for an owner at a lose that is your problem. You seem to expect every other trainer to go get them back and feed forever

Last time I had a "stable" with owners was in 2003? Like I said, not once have I sent a horse down the bad road. And it's apparent from my record I NEVER stuck anything in them either that was illegal. As for the again coward Grandstand Handicapper. Your comments don't warrant stating your real name? Of course they don't, talking shit out your ass would be met with transparency if you did. Do you see me hiding? Now it's threats of lawsuits for my statements? I'M WAITING!!! I would LOVE to sit in front of a judge with these people. PLEEEEEEEZE!!! Bring them into a court of law where they can also be questioned. Not the harness racing kangaroo court. BTW, Ray and Mark will be there soon enough.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 21, 2025, 08:32:33 PM
Last time I had a "stable" with owners was in 2003? Like I said, not once have I sent a horse down the bad road. And it's apparent from my record I NEVER stuck anything in them either that was illegal. As for the again coward Grandstand Handicapper. Your comments don't warrant stating your real name? Of course they don't, talking shit out your ass would be met with transparency if you did. Do you see me hiding? Now it's threats of lawsuits for my statements? I'M WAITING!!! I would LOVE to sit in front of a judge with these people. PLEEEEEEEZE!!! Bring them into a court of law where they can also be questioned. Not the harness racing kangaroo court. BTW, Ray and Mark will be there soon enough.  tmbz1

I didn't threaten a lawsuit. More deflection and BS simply to avoid showing proof for all your claims.

Ray, Mark, and Steve are all operating their businesses. I guess your proof is not good enough, or like I said, perhaps not real. I am sure you will come up with more reasons why they are not held accountable. Your allegations and claims about them will result in nothing.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 08:34:27 PM
I think I figured Harness Racing Revolution out, a few possibilities:
1. Very disgruntled owner/trainer who had no success and now feels compelled to strike out at everyone
2. Killed a few horses and now feels very guilty so he must show the world how good he is.
3. Works for the T-breds or the casino's.
4. Just a demented person who hates the whole world in general because his life is a mess.
5. Someone who believes he knows everything and must let everyone know how intelligent, moral and just a person he is.

Has to be one of those because his hatred is liken to the idiots who burn Tesla's. Otherwise why would he come to this site? Or maybe just an egotistical person looking for a medal.

Wrong. I'm the worst nightmare of your "industry". I'm well versed in harness racing. Have watched and documented how the scumbags work. To shut me up certain powerful individuals thought tossing me out was the way to shut me up, not realizing I haven't relied on harness racing as my income for decades. Now I have the truth and turned to the enemy "the media, politicians, law enforcement and the public" with everything you cowards are too scared to talk about. And yeah, if what I do helps end the free money.....BONUS!!!  ngc3
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 08:36:35 PM
I didn't threaten a lawsuit. More deflection and BS simply to avoid showing proof for all your claims.

Ray, Mark, and Steve are all operating their businesses. I guess your proof is not good enough, or like I said, perhaps not real. I am sure you will come up with more reasons why they are not held accountable. Your allegations and claims about them will result in nothing.

My proof of all my claims are well documented with the proper authorities. I post it here to piss you cowards off. Does it seem I'm worried about anything??? Nope. However yes there will be a new lawsuit fairly soon and I WILL have regular updates for all of you. I repeat, assaulting someone for doing business with an individual is a CRIME. That's a fact. Tune in soon!
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 21, 2025, 08:45:42 PM
ohhhh, after seeing your record I see why you have sour grapes. I was wrong with my other guesses. Looks like most of the horses you had should not have even been raced, since they raced so poorly, obviously not sound.
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 08:47:14 PM
ohhhh, after seeing your record I see why you have sour grapes. I was wrong with my other guesses. Looks like most of the horses you had should not have even been raced, since they raced so poorly, obviously not sound.

Uh huh. Grasping are we? You go right ahead and prove that. Also check my fines and suspensions as a trainer. Compare that the the "successful trainers".   11.wp
Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 21, 2025, 08:52:55 PM
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Title: Re: Which Sport Kills More Of Its Athletes Each Day???
Post by: HayDaze on April 21, 2025, 10:25:46 PM
I guess that was one of yours. I dont know why if you could not afford to feed it, that you would race it. No wonder you had no success.
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