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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Cleanupindustry on April 12, 2025, 09:49:18 PM
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Meadowlands Saturday night race 9 deuce Hanover was going to be 2nd Jason Bartlett grabs him and yanks him back to 5th…. Your opinion
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Saw that. Typical Bartlett stiff job. Must've had a tri and super bet that race. This sport has become so corrupt it's sad.
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Yes. Everyone should watch this races last 50 feet and give your opinion. The judges are so clueless I would give him a stiff fine and 2 weeks vacation from driving
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Im a big Bartlett fan. He loves to win. This ill admit doesnt look good. Definitely deserves to have the phone ringing in the paddock office with an explanation as to what happened?
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Before Jason flipped to the dark side he would beat himself up for losing the one race he got beat on a night he won 8. I knew two years ago something happened when he started asking that I back off his "friends" or who I call dirtbags in the game. I have never seen him grab one like that in the last 1/16th for any reason. Ripped is the more appropriate term. He doesn't bet. But I also know he can't handle being pressured by people either. And I hope he was smart enough to take my advice and stop leaving bankrolls in the console of his car. You all figure it out from there.
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wow, thats a pretty bad look.
whatever punishment gets meted out will be a fraction of what a no-name guy would have gotten..
can't have our stars/future HOF'ers getting called out too loudly..
its "bad for business"..
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Before Jason flipped to the dark side he would beat himself up for losing the one race he got beat on a night he won 8. I knew two years ago something happened when he started asking that I back off his "friends" or who I call dirtbags in the game. I have never seen him grab one like that in the last 1/16th for any reason. Ripped is the more appropriate term. He doesn't bet. But I also know he can't handle being pressured by people either. And I hope he was smart enough to take my advice and stop leaving bankrolls in the console of his car. You all figure it out from there.
For a guy who flipped to the dark side as you say, he does pretty well for himself and makes lots of money.
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For a guy who flipped to the dark side as you say, he does pretty well for himself and makes lots of money.
Thank you for verifying what I just said. Yep, for flipping to the dark side he's never made more money. DUHH. ngc3 I repeat, and I did turn this over to Settlemoir and Cote who didn't do shit with it. Bartlett asked or should I say suggested TWICE that I go down as trainer for Josh Marks "he'll never hurt you Petrelli". Then even suggested my wife who has her license do it. All right before they took in Gareth Dowse. Dowse gets banned from Yonkers and out of nowhere comes Engblom with a barn for of pacers and same backing. Who's their contract driver? You guessed it. And why does Bartlett approach other trainers trying to buy horses for Engblom's owners? I'll stop there. You can all kiss their asses, not me. Oh and why did Bartlett call me asking I take down the picture of Marks in Fords barn holding tubes, pail and funnel telling me he's really trying to clean himself up? And why did he ask me to be nice to Banca if I went to his sentencing?? That he was taking his kid to cross fit for him? Same cross fit joint he was sending a NYS Trooper friend from to visit me and "teach me a lesson". And asked that I back off Ford because his wife is a "sweetheart". Go right ahead and defend him.
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wow, thats a pretty bad look.
whatever punishment gets meted out will be a fraction of what a no-name guy would have gotten..
can't have our stars/future HOF'ers getting called out too loudly..
its "bad for business"..
I agree. They will probably give him a day or two and there will be no mention of it. Not the first time. I sent an email to USTA with screenshots. He should be handed a week minimum. It was clear as day on the camera with him pulling back the reins as the horse was making progress and would have easily got 2nd in that race. He made sure to get out of top 4.
It was disgusting and this needs to stop!
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I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?
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The more you watch the worse it looks. NJRC better intervene. And M1 cries about handle, keep supporting this shit. https://youtu.be/j3FaEJ01XrU
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I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?
Explain that to a state investigator.
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Horse seemed steppy in upper stretch, and was running in. But I still can’t defend what I saw.
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If the Meadowlands doesn't at least call him in about it to hear what excuse he comes up with, it's an embarrassment to them who preach integrity.
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Watch for any fines posted on the USTA next Friday. I predict no fine. The horse looked like he was running in when he was passed late on the inside by another horse..
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Looked bad didn't want to run over some one's money
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I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?
He's an idiot. He wanted to make sure it looked like he was trying to avoid a fine/suspension. These guys don't think. What he doesn't realize is that everyone could see him on camera! Guess he thought he would try to make a lame excuse after.
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Wow!! That was as bad as I have seen in a long time. However, get real. Nothing will be done about it. HARNESS RACING=PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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He wasn't even trying to hide that. Running in my ass! That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple. He needs 30 days for that bullshit! Cheating POS! Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!
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He wasn't even trying to hide that. Running in my ass! That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple. He needs 30 days for that bullshit! Cheating POS!
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100% stiff job
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The more you watch the worse it looks. NJRC better intervene. And M1 cries about handle, keep supporting this shit. https://youtu.be/j3FaEJ01XrU
You can clearly see him look to his left while pulling back the reins. Total stiff job!
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I watched the replay last night in it's entirety and coming around the final turn he had a perfect second over trip and looked loaded when tipping three wide. I don't think he got after the horse once during the stretch drive except a couple love taps on the sulky. He blatantly yanked that horse back the last 50 to 100 yards. This is the very definition of fixing a race. Here is the other evidence that is really damning that hasn't been mentioned. That was race 9 and it handled using round numbers $325,000. Race 8 only handled $239,000 and race 10 only handled $204,000. You can all make your conclusions from that.
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I watched the replay last night in it's entirety and coming around the final turn he had a perfect second over trip and looked loaded when tipping three wide. I don't think he got after the horse once during the stretch drive except a couple love taps on the sulky. He blatantly yanked that horse back the last 50 to 100 yards. This is the very definition of fixing a race. Here is the other evidence that is really damning that hasn't been mentioned. That was race 9 and it handled using round numbers $325,000. Race 8 only handled $239,000 and race 10 only handled $204,000. You can all make your conclusions from that.
A member of my group pointed something out though, that includes the Pick 4 and Pick 7.
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A member of my group pointed something out though, that includes the Pick 4 and Pick 7.
That is a good point Mike, I didn't notice that, but it doesn't change the fact that the video evidence speaks for itself. It happens all the time in harness and tbred and has for years and will continue forever.
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That is a good point Mike, I didn't notice that, but it doesn't change the fact that the video evidence speaks for itself. It happens all the time in harness and tbred and has for years and will continue forever.
I didn't either, I posted it on the group. Whatever the reason, he ripped that horse. I don't wanna hear he was gonna hook wheels or horse ran in. First you don't grab if you're going to hook wheels, you go forward. And Jason can't steer when his fucking handholds are behind his back. Fact is he chased the horse and he went forward. He ripped him and he dropped 3 positions in 100 feet.
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I didn't see Bartlett stop getting after the horse. What I see is him purposely grab the horse up and finish out of the top 4.
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Alot of times even the top drivers stop getting after their horse when they don't think they can catch the front runner, and wind up getting passed by other horses in the process.
He chased him, gained positions then ripped for whatever reason. He wasn't running in when he grabbed him.
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He wasn't even trying to hide that. Running in my ass! That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple. He needs 30 days for that bullshit! Cheating POS! Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!
30 days that should be minimum 6 months and if I was in charge of licensing he'd never drive in my state again. That was worse than any I have seen. He was passing horses grabbed up and moved over.
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Extremely bad optics, and no excuses. Check the #'s. It should not be a typical days/fine. I hope they make a statement with this one.
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Just watched it. Real bad!!!
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wow, brutal
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that was pretty egregious
M1 should call him in and ask for an explanation
this leaves the bettors with even less confidence than before
this guy gets all the top drives at YR--how could anyone bet that place?
if Gural wants to show people "he is doing it"(referring to integrity)-here is his chance
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that was pretty egregious
M1 should call him in and ask for an explanation
this leaves the bettors with even less confidence than before
this guy gets all the top drives at YR--how could anyone bet that place?
if Gural wants to show people "he is doing it"(referring to integrity)-here is his chance
Absolutely. Without question! I say there is no explanation. You have to ask, but it can only get worse from there.
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that was pretty egregious
M1 should call him in and ask for an explanation
this leaves the bettors with even less confidence than before
this guy gets all the top drives at YR--how could anyone bet that place?
if Gural wants to show people "he is doing it"(referring to integrity)-here is his chance
M1 should have nothing to do with it. This is PJ and NJRC. I'm skipping the judges and calling the two investigators I already know. The more I watch he's never close to Ryder, looks over and the instant he see's him goes from tappy tap on right side "if horse is running in don't you reach over to the left?" and immediatley RIPS. He didn't just grab, and he kept ripping him through the wire. If he just keeps as he was he's second. From there we can all make our assumptions. BUT, the public got fucked. And that's what matters here.
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M1 should have nothing to do with it. This is PJ and NJRC. I'm skipping the judges and calling the two investigators I already know. The more I watch he's never close to Ryder, looks over and the instant he see's him goes from tappy tap on right side "if horse is running in don't you reach over to the left?" and immediatley RIPS. He didn't just grab, and he kept ripping him through the wire. If he just keeps as he was he's second. From there we can all make our assumptions. BUT, the public got fucked. And that's what matters here.
agree this should be NJRC also
....but Gural keeps tooting his horn about integrity--so i feel he should have some say in this as well
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Gural has NO BALLS !! Ban him from your racetrack period you don’t need this at your track
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Maybe that snowflake Petrelli can call his friend up for a firsthand explanation. ngc3
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Maybe that snowflake Petrelli can call his friend up for a firsthand explanation. ngc3
Strong words typed into a chat forum by an anonymous coward. But I'm the snowflake? 😂
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I hope than someone-Mike or whomever- can keep us up to date on what if anything is being done on this matter.
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I hope than someone-Mike or whomever- can keep us up to date on what if anything is being done on this matter.
Will be talking to investigator at NJRC tomorrow. Not wasting time talking to the one PJ in NJ.
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Drove the horse perfect and looked like a winner .Unfortunately the horse had to be steadied because he was getting rough veering Horse may also bled and went flat late .
ARE ANY OF YOU DRIVERS ???
ASKING FOR A FRIEND
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Wow !!! If he ran in a split second like he did and he held his lines perfectly still he would have glided into 2nd place easily but he yanked horse back 4-5 times getting his horse 5th. I’d like to see the betting patterns without the 5 in the tickets which the mutuel department will be able to see
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I don't know what the betting patterns were, but the payoffs for the race aren't out of line at all. The 4th choice won at 5-1, the 3rd choice at 4-1 was second, and the second choice at 5-2 combined for a $2 trifecta of $194 which isn't bad at all, the 10 cent superfecta with an 11-1 paid finishing fourth paid $63.95, which isn't bad either.
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Drove the horse perfect and looked like a winner .Unfortunately the horse had to be steadied because he was getting rough veering Horse may also bled and went flat late .
ARE ANY OF YOU DRIVERS ???
ASKING FOR A FRIEND
Normally I may agree with you...this was so obvious it's criminal! You must be a friend or relative of that cheating asshole! tmbz1
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Please call and voice your complaints about this matter. Enough calls and they will have to take it seriously. Guy make $500k/year and has to fuck the general public? This is the number on the NJRC website: 609-292-0613 9:00a.m. to 5:00p.m., Monday through Friday.
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Horse was a false favorite.....hors es form is spotty. Horse really no serious class , facing some better horses. Horse had no chance to win or be second after he did throw a few steps and bear in......you guys are wrong about this one. And I do know what I am talking about.
I see far more blatant stiffing, as in driving into blind switches, taking a tuck behind a 50 to 1 shot. Bartlett has too much to lose and very little to gain tanking a horse like this.
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Drove the horse perfect and looked like a winner .Unfortunately the horse had to be steadied because he was getting rough veering Horse may also bled and went flat late .
ARE ANY OF YOU DRIVERS ???
ASKING FOR A FRIEND
IDIOT! Must be a friend of the criminal pos. Guess you got the tip also and left him off your tickets lmao
You'd have to be blind to not see what he did in that race. CRIMINAL CHEAT
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Horse was a false favorite.....hors es form is spotty. Horse really no serious class , facing some better horses. Horse had no chance to win or be second after he did throw a few steps and bear in......you guys are wrong about this one. And I do know what I am talking about.
I see far more blatant stiffing, as in driving into blind switches, taking a tuck behind a 50 to 1 shot. Bartlett has too much to lose and very little to gain tanking a horse like this.
Then why the choke hold at the end? Horse was loaded with pace. Just sticking up for your own I guess.
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brutal
make all the excuses you want , it was a brutal look for the sport
you think you are going to get people to bet on that shit instead of a professional sports game
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Even people new to the game will say "have any inside tips", like they know it's rigged at times. You never hear anyone ask that about a football game. Sport is doomed and this is another nail in the coffin!
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Anybody ask Russo what he thought? Trainer should know.
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Odds are he wouldn't speak out against the great Bartlett as to not be black balled.
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The trainer shouldn't have to say squat-----although he should and could. However, it doesn't matter if the #'s were fine. It's optics and public perception. If the NJRC doesn't jump on this, Gural et al should. He still has private property rights. I can't imagine the excuse for this.
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sez the 2$ bettors who couldn't tell a crupper from a cruller unless I put it under their nose......LOL
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M1 should have nothing to do with it. This is PJ and NJRC. I'm skipping the judges and calling the two investigators I already know. The more I watch he's never close to Ryder, looks over and the instant he see's him goes from tappy tap on right side "if horse is running in don't you reach over to the left?" and immediatley RIPS. He didn't just grab, and he kept ripping him through the wire. If he just keeps as he was he's second. From there we can all make our assumptions. BUT, the public got fucked. And that's what matters here.
What did the investigators say?
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They need to check if ELITE left him off the ticket, but they wont.
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looks bad
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They need to check if ELITE left him off the ticket, but they wont.
Do you think Elite is sending in envelopes?
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Horse was a false favorite.....hors es form is spotty. Horse really no serious class , facing some better horses. Horse had no chance to win or be second after he did throw a few steps and bear in......you guys are wrong about this one. And I do know what I am talking about.
I see far more blatant stiffing, as in driving into blind switches, taking a tuck behind a 50 to 1 shot. Bartlett has too much to lose and very little to gain tanking a horse like this.
WHAT ????
DIDNT YOU READ ALL THE POSTS SAYING BARTLETT STIFFED PULLED BACK CHEATED HORSE WOULD OF WON
THESE PROFESSIONALS DRIVING FROM COUCHES KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT RACING !!!!
AGREE WITH YOU 100%
WHY WOULD HE DRIVE THE HORSE PERFECT INTO DEEP STRETCH ???? OBVIOUSLY NOT TO STIFF
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Nobody said he would have won, they said he would have been 2nd. To answer, why would he drive the horse perfect into deep stretch, only to stiff? You wouldn't think that but the visual looks bad.
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I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?
EXACTLY!! I knew several drivers very closely, from the "old days" in the early 70's at RR and YR, and when they wanted to be "out" they knew what to do without having to look "stiff" near the wire. I did notice that his horse veered out going into the first turn and just about interfered with the 6, and they also blazed the 2nd Q in 26.4 to a 54 half, so he was gapped back and even was gapping his cover till he flipped him out in the lane and built some good momentum.. and then, as you say, just went "chill"..
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EXACTLY!! I knew several drivers very closely, from the "old days" in the early 70's at RR and YR, and when they wanted to be "out" they knew what to do without having to look "stiff" near the wire. I did notice that his horse veered out going into the first turn and just about interfered with the 6, and they also blazed the 2nd Q in 26.4 to a 54 half, so he was gapped back and even was gapping his cover till he flipped him out in the lane and built some good momentum.. and then, as you say, just went "chill"..
THE LEADING COUCH DRIVERS ON HERE SAW NOTHING WRONG WITH THE HORSE !!!! YOU ARE VERY OBSERVANT SIR !!!!
FUNNY THESE COUCH DRIVERS /:JOCKEY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT HORSES NEVER BEING BEHIND OR ON TOP OF A RACEHORSE !
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Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?
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Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?
https://youtu.be/Fen7NH_bp2o
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The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.
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The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.
Well let me fill you in on that. Last year I hand delivered info regarding this individual directly to Jason Settlemoir regarding the gentleman in question suggesting others to go down as trainer for Josh Marks. Now right there should be enough right? Along with the literal road map connecting a few of the Marks beards and who the pivot man was. Know what happened? In the end I am banned from M1. The End.
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Well let me fill you in on that. Last year I hand delivered info regarding this individual directly to Jason Settlemoir regarding the gentleman in question suggesting others to go down as trainer for Josh Marks. Now right there should be enough right? Along with the literal road map connecting a few of the Marks beards and who the pivot man was. Know what happened? In the end I am banned from M1. The End.
Did you ever speak to an investigator about this incident with JB? I called the number I posted twice and no one ever answered.
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Did you ever speak to an investigator about this incident with JB? I called the number I posted twice and no one ever answered.
Reasons I trust nobody inside the game. Last year, I tried Settlemoir first, initially he called in Brice. All he said was you need to hear this I think we need to make a call across the river. HIS WORDS, and he told me that's the FBI. Brice took me in the conference room and bullshitted me for a half hour promising me that when all the files are unsealed I would be the first to have them. Meaning the whole FBI investigation. My bullshit o meter exploded. Now maybe everyone will understand why the second time I was taken into the conference room I recorded it. Do you people think I'm stupid? And yes I filed a report "across the river". I didn't even bother with the NJRC. However I did have a really nice talk with Chris Seagreaves last year when he stopped by Dreamland. Two things he said were, Jeff Gural thinks he runs the FBI and Brice still thinks he has his NJ State Police badge. And that he acts like the NJRC answers to him. And you all know what happened to me when I went public. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can throw them. Really sit back and think about everything that happens. What happened with all these people who were BANNED by Mr. Gural that he spoke of on 60 Minutes. Those on the FBI failed test list. Maybe I forgot how to read, but aren't most of those names back in the program? Except for one, Howard Taylor. Because that's just a pissing match. It all ends like this, if you dare speak up you are FUCKED. By all of them. Guys who have abused, drugged and killed horses while screwing the public are still racing. An idiot like me who has ZERO penalties training, nobody ever heard of or bothered anyone complains about ice at Goshen and posts it online is now enemy #1 of the game. Most of you sit here focused on me while the real crooks fuck you in your asses every day, and you take it. And yes I got in contact with Seagreaves about JB. What's being done, your guess is as good as mine.
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Reasons I trust nobody inside the game. Last year, I tried Settlemoir first, initially he called in Brice. All he said was you need to hear this I think we need to make a call across the river. HIS WORDS, and he told me that's the FBI. Brice took me in the conference room and bullshitted me for a half hour promising me that when all the files are unsealed I would be the first to have them. Meaning the whole FBI investigation. My bullshit o meter exploded. Now maybe everyone will understand why the second time I was taken into the conference room I recorded it. Do you people think I'm stupid? And yes I filed a report "across the river". I didn't even bother with the NJRC. However I did have a really nice talk with Chris Seagreaves last year when he stopped by Dreamland. Two things he said were, Jeff Gural thinks he runs the FBI and Brice still thinks he has his NJ State Police badge. And that he acts like the NJRC answers to him. And you all know what happened to me when I went public. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can throw them. Really sit back and think about everything that happens. What happened with all these people who were BANNED by Mr. Gural that he spoke of on 60 Minutes. Those on the FBI failed test list. Maybe I forgot how to read, but aren't most of those names back in the program? Except for one, Howard Taylor. Because that's just a pissing match. It all ends like this, if you dare speak up you are FUCKED. By all of them. Guys who have abused, drugged and killed horses while screwing the public are still racing. An idiot like me who has ZERO penalties training, nobody ever heard of or bothered anyone complains about ice at Goshen and posts it online is now enemy #1 of the game. Most of you sit here focused on me while the real crooks fuck you in your asses every day, and you take it. And yes I got in contact with Seagreaves about JB. What's being done, your guess is as good as mine.
ALL BULLSHIT! If you people believe this I have a car to sell you. Stick to knowing what you know best... collecting food stamps and collecting welfare checks.
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ALL BULLSHIT! If you people believe this I have a car to sell you. Stick to knowing what you know best... collecting food stamps and collecting welfare checks.
Bomgiorno and DiDomenico were on the list, banned temporarily and then gural allowed them back to race there. Basically mocking the fbi investigation. I realize you are somehow connected to this situation and these people and are desparately trying to up end petrellis efforts to save more horses from being abused by power posting here. But those 2 barns are currently racing. Fact.
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Can someone post the replay of Jason Bartlett stretch drive and compare this one to one on Saturday night. Watch his stretch drive Yonkers 1st race Tuesday night what a difference huh?
The biggest difference is Gural.He doesn’t allow a horse to be hit like that at at The Meadowlands.
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He wasn't even trying to hide that. Running in my ass! That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple. He needs 30 days for that bullshit! Cheating POS! Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!
Why 30 days ??
He’s fixing the outcome of a sporting event.
Jail !!!
AND put the shit that paid him, probably Andrew from Monticello in the adjacent cell.
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Why 30 days ??
He’s fixing the outcome of a sporting event.
Jail !!!
AND put the shit that paid him, probably Andrew from Monticello in the adjacent cell.
WOW
TOUGH WORDS FROM A TOP HORSEPLOP COUCH DRIVER
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The optics are bad. The Meadowlands should have made a statement...in my opinion.
Absolutely. If they didn't take action ASAP, they should have made a statement as to what they were going to do and when. Unless he was talked to within 24 to 48 hours, then this too is bad optics. Doing nothing and silence makes it worse.
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Bomgiorno and DiDomenico were on the list, banned temporarily and then gural allowed them back to race there. Basically mocking the fbi investigation. I realize you are somehow connected to this situation and these people and are desparately trying to up end petrellis efforts to save more horses from being abused by power posting here. But those 2 barns are currently racing. Fact.
this is the part Gural supporters would like to sweep under the rug
he claims to clean up the sport-but apparently has partnerships with Bongiorno, Burke, Julie Miller, etc and there are a different set of rules for them
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Julie may have trained 1 or 2 of his horses for him at one time.
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this is the part Gural supporters would like to sweep under the rug
he claims to clean up the sport-but apparently has partnerships with Bongiorno, Burke, Julie Miller, etc and there are a different set of rules for them
He banned bonhiorno from driving after that horrible accident where a horse died. Reinstated him. He also banned bongiorno after his girlfriend won a race he was driving the favorite and the double came back $20 when the win price was $30. Reinstated there too.
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He banned bonhiorno from driving after that horrible accident where a horse died. Reinstated him. He also banned bongiorno after his girlfriend won a race he was driving the favorite and the double came back $20 when the win price was $30. Reinstated there too.
You forgot when Joe said in an interview that his dad told him to race easy that week. I think Joe got a few weeks off for that.
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You forgot when Joe said in an interview that his dad told him to race easy that week. I think Joe got a few weeks off for that.
Right. I think i also forgot when they got banned for a short period of time after a philadelphia positive. Then reinstated after he thought about it for a while.
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All Bonjos need to be banded
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I see Bartlett listed to drive Sat.
I guess I shouldn't be holding my breath for M1 or NJRWB to make a statement.
M1 has not replied to my comments.
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I see Bartlett listed to drive Sat.
I guess I shouldn't be holding my breath for M1 or NJRWB to make a statement.
M1 has not replied to my comments.
They're not gonna take a hit like this now. However it doesn't mean NJRC isn't moving on it. I'd be STUNNED if they actually did their jobs though. I got word to Chris Seagreaves who I know got other calls. But don't bet on it.