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Title: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Zack on April 15, 2025, 09:53:07 AM
What ever happened to Bob and his mom?

They were claiming horses like crazy at the Meadowlands back in the 80s and 90s.

I thought he was a bit of a freak then when I met him and his mom they couldn’t have been nicer.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Chips N Salsa on April 15, 2025, 10:44:34 AM
No one has heard from Bob in yrs.  His mother passed away a long time ago.  Rumor was Bob was very sick and lived in his house as a recluse from the world and has no communication with anyone.  He was good for the sport as he was a character.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Zack on April 15, 2025, 11:19:11 AM
No one has heard from Bob in yrs.  His mother passed away a long time ago.  Rumor was Bob was very sick and lived in his house as a recluse from the world and has no communication with anyone.  He was good for the sport as he was a character.
Sad news. Thank you I think the family started Mr. Coffee corporation.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: hammer0419 on April 15, 2025, 01:47:50 PM
Left the game owing the civilized world.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Chips N Salsa on April 15, 2025, 03:38:15 PM
Left the game owing the civilized world.

Yes his father was Mr/ Coffee and I have never heard and highly doubt Bob owed anyone anything.  He was very sharp with money and was no dummy.   I believe he was a Wharton graduate.  I don't know of anyone who has anything bad to say about Bob.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Ohracing on April 15, 2025, 04:45:58 PM
Yes his father was Mr/ Coffee and I have never heard and highly doubt Bob owed anyone anything.  He was very sharp with money and was no dummy.   I believe he was a Wharton graduate.  I don't know of anyone who has anything bad to say about Bob.

Bob was a Wharton grad you are correct.  His father was the inventor of Mr. Coffee claimed having Joe Dimaggio endorsing it was the reason for the success.  He owned a lot of horses and is the reason Brett Pelling left the USA for the time he was gone.  He sued him for devaluing The Panderosa and was crippling Pelling in Legal fees so he left until the statue of limitations run out.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Chips N Salsa on April 15, 2025, 06:28:05 PM
Bob was a Wharton grad you are correct.  His father was the inventor of Mr. Coffee claimed having Joe Dimaggio endorsing it was the reason for the success.  He owned a lot of horses and is the reason Brett Pelling left the USA for the time he was gone.  He sued him for devaluing The Panderosa and was crippling Pelling in Legal fees so he left until the statue of limitations run out.

I had heard similar stories to that.  I heard Pelling raced him on synthetic morphine or toradal with a cracked knee.  Bob found out and went off his rocker and sued Pelling.  Pelling has always pushed the envelope and skirted testing so it's not unbelievable to see this.  Go test all his babies right now and you will be shocked what you find in their system.  Everyone knows his babies are trained down on very high powered supplements then he jerks them off around May and then they have to recover before qualifiers. 
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Zack on April 15, 2025, 07:13:37 PM
I had heard similar stories to that.  I heard Pelling raced him on synthetic morphine or toradal with a cracked knee.  Bob found out and went off his rocker and sued Pelling.  Pelling has always pushed the envelope and skirted testing so it's not unbelievable to see this.  Go test all his babies right now and you will be shocked what you find in their system.  Everyone knows his babies are trained down on very high powered supplements then he jerks them off around May and then they have to recover before qualifiers.
Brett introduced America to a box of baking soda and a pound of confectionery sugar. He looked like a genius, but he’s not about a chemist.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Stan durbread on April 15, 2025, 08:15:06 PM
I had heard similar stories to that.  I heard Pelling raced him on synthetic morphine or toradal with a cracked knee.  Bob found out and went off his rocker and sued Pelling.  Pelling has always pushed the envelope and skirted testing so it's not unbelievable to see this.  Go test all his babies right now and you will be shocked what you find in their system.  Everyone knows his babies are trained down on very high powered supplements then he jerks them off around May and then they have to recover before qualifiers.
Everybody knows this.  Except for Brett and all his help.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Stan durbread on April 15, 2025, 08:17:16 PM
Bob was always slow pay and trunks were on wheels looking for the next “hot trainer”. As far as the lawsuit that cost Pelling to go home. Please fist the court records they are public information. If you really know a fucking thing
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: seen2much on April 15, 2025, 09:20:43 PM
I believe Pelling was told to go away or be exposed. Jimmy Takter & Mickey Burke the same.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Zack on April 15, 2025, 09:53:27 PM
I had heard similar stories to that.  I heard Pelling raced him on synthetic morphine or toradal with a cracked knee.  Bob found out and went off his rocker and sued Pelling.  Pelling has always pushed the envelope and skirted testing so it's not unbelievable to see this.  Go test all his babies right now and you will be shocked what you find in their system.  Everyone knows his babies are trained down on very high powered supplements then he jerks them off around May and then they have to recover before qualifiers.
You defiantly know Pelling!
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Stan durbread on April 16, 2025, 05:56:17 AM
I believe Pelling was told to go away or be exposed. Jimmy Takter & Mickey Burke the same.

Ok so who told them to go away? I’m curious who you think has enough power in the industry to convince people to go away
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: The Exporter on April 16, 2025, 06:04:23 AM
Mike from Central Park.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 16, 2025, 09:05:41 AM
Bob was a Wharton grad you are correct.  His father was the inventor of Mr. Coffee claimed having Joe Dimaggio endorsing it was the reason for the success.  He owned a lot of horses and is the reason Brett Pelling left the USA for the time he was gone.  He sued him for devaluing The Panderosa and was crippling Pelling in Legal fees so he left until the statue of limitations run out.

That's an interesting story. So where was this lawsuit filed? I'd like to look that one up.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Chips N Salsa on April 16, 2025, 09:58:23 AM
I honestly don't remember Bob pursuing the lawsuit that far and heard the reason Brett left was on the orders of David Brooks long after Bob.  I heard David paid Brett to leave the country over the pump n dump and horse business of DHB.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: seen2much on April 16, 2025, 10:07:21 AM
Ok so who told them to go away? I’m curious who you think has enough power in the industry to convince people to go away
NJRC in MB case. Gural in JT case.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Zack on April 16, 2025, 10:13:20 AM
Mike from Central Park.
ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 16, 2025, 10:27:05 AM
Not speaking to the conspiracy theories on Brett leaving the US, but, as far as Brooks-----and all of this is public information-----when Brooks was on trial, Brett was not only interviewed while he was in Australia, but he came back to the US to testify. I don't know if he was subpoenaed. His testimony certainly did not help Brooks at all because many of the charges against Brooks were for fraud, embezzlement, theft, using corporate monies to pay for his personal and very extravagant lifestyle, etc. Brett testified on how and from where he was paid by Brooks.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Dr. O on April 16, 2025, 11:10:39 AM
Lawsuit was filed in Neverland.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 16, 2025, 12:21:05 PM
I thought so.

Again, nothing about the conspiracy theories, owing people money, etc. Rumor and innuendo. But, Bob Glazer was a monster owner. Everyone knew him, talked to him, etc. So, all of this too is public information. His involvement, interest, and I would suspect, his passion, were impacted by a few things. One, he went from a major buyer of yearlings, and playing the game at the highest level, to being a very big breeder. He shifted from buyer to breeder, and he bred to race initially. His business and business model changed. He talked about this a lot in interviews he gave.

Two, yes his mother died. She lived near me back then and I used to see them outside the track often. As everyone knows, they were very close and together shared a real passion for the sport and business. They spent a lot of time together, traveled, etc. When she died, Bob lost that one person who he was able to share that with. Lastly, from comments he made, he seemed to be very disappointed, even angry, at the industry in general-----due to the incident at the Meadows when The Panderosa tested positive for morphine. I don't remember the specifics, but I think there were 8 other trainers got morphine positives, and Glazer's horse was either the lowest or second lowest amount. I don't remember if everyone had to forfeit the purse or not, but the other 8 trainers got no penalty, minimal fine, time served credit kind of thing, based upon the circumstances and likelihood of contamination, and Pelling got something like 9 months.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Chips N Salsa on April 16, 2025, 12:55:38 PM
I thought so.

Again, nothing about the conspiracy theories, owing people money, etc. Rumor and innuendo. But, Bob Glazer was a monster owner. Everyone knew him, talked to him, etc. So, all of this too is public information. His involvement, interest, and I would suspect, his passion, were impacted by a few things. One, he went from a major buyer of yearlings, and playing the game at the highest level, to being a very big breeder. He shifted from buyer to breeder, and he bred to race initially. His business and business model changed. He talked about this a lot in interviews he gave.

Two, yes his mother died. She lived near me back then and I used to see them outside the track often. As everyone knows, they were very close and together shared a real passion for the sport and business. They spent a lot of time together, traveled, etc. When she died, Bob lost that one person who he was able to share that with. Lastly, from comments he made, he seemed to be very disappointed, even angry, at the industry in general-----due to the incident at the Meadows when The Panderosa tested positive for morphine. I don't remember the specifics, but I think there were 8 other trainers got morphine positives, and Glazer's horse was either the lowest or second lowest amount. I don't remember if everyone had to forfeit the purse or not, but the other 8 trainers got no penalty, minimal fine, time served credit kind of thing, based upon the circumstances and likelihood of contamination, and Pelling got something like 9 months.

Yes this I do remember and this is very factual.  The big question is where is Bob now and is he OK? 
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: stonecold on April 16, 2025, 01:42:13 PM
Bob was fine last time I spoke with him he lost interest in the business over a few things his mom passing the pandarosa positive and the straw that broke the camels back was when his horse won the Wilson and got taken down and almost every trainer he had was getting positives ledford he just got disgusted with the industry kept his studs had most of his brood mares and babies on his farm in Ohio as far as paying his bills he paid at 90 days he ran it like a business a lot of people over charged him and billed him for shit his horses never got Bob is a really good guy he’s just a private person and one other thing his father did invent Mr coffee but really made billions building strip malls all over the country when his dad passed there was a big thing on the news about his accountant had stolen a lot of his money
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Meadow Ford on April 16, 2025, 01:56:20 PM
Bob was fine last time I spoke with him he lost interest in the business over a few things his mom passing the pandarosa positive and the straw that broke the camels back was when his horse won the Wilson and got taken down and almost every trainer he had was getting positives ledford he just got disgusted with the industry kept his studs had most of his brood mares and babies on his farm in Ohio as far as paying his bills he paid at 90 days he ran it like a business a lot of people over charged him and billed him for shit his horses never got Bob is a really good guy he’s just a private person and one other thing his father did invent Mr coffee but really made billions building strip malls all over the country when his dad passed there was a big thing on the news about his accountant had stolen a lot of his money
Are you telling us that a trainer had to race and carry The Peter Pan Stable for 90 days before he got paid the first penny?
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: jupiter on April 16, 2025, 02:35:34 PM
He wasn't the only owner to be slow pay.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Lance on April 16, 2025, 03:08:12 PM
I remember when The Pandersoa was 3, he was pretty lame at the end of the year, Bob wanted to race him in the Breeders Crown but Pelling wouldn’t , said he wasn’t sound enough.  Bob took the horse and gave him to Joe Stutzman, he managed to get into the final by finishing 3rd in his elim but  was terrible in the final, dog lame. That was his last start.
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Stan durbread on April 17, 2025, 09:01:41 AM
Are you telling us that a trainer had to race and carry The Peter Pan Stable for 90 days before he got paid the first penny?

Yes Bob was one of those guys and usually he didn’t just move one to a new trainer when he decided to try a new trainer it was the whole barn
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: hammer0419 on April 17, 2025, 09:08:32 AM
I know the lawyer who spoke to ALL HIS CREDITORS. The world is  full broken former Millionaires. As far the Pandarosa goes he was a good sire who stood at Hanover I'm confident Bob made money,he just didn't pay
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: clearmind on April 19, 2025, 12:16:22 PM
 'a lot of people over charged him and billed him for shit his horses never got'

They all do that....
Title: Re: Bob Glazer (Peter Pan Stables)
Post by: Stan durbread on April 19, 2025, 03:47:02 PM
'a lot of people over charged him and billed him for shit his horses never got'

They all do that....
That is on him for not doing his due diligence. He was a POS owner that was slow pay and would move the whole stable if one raced bad. And always was looking for the next super trainer didn’t give 2 shots how many positives they had. Good riddance hopefully the rest of the POS owners follow and we can get back to a fun sport
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