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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Oliver Clozoff on April 23, 2025, 10:43:14 PM
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Not that I care but how does the 7 not get dq'd from 4th there? Have they changed the rules?
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I had to watch this twice. How is this not a dq of the 7??? he went off the track and comes back in before the wire and stays up for 4th?? WTF but ummmm that's a really bad look. New level of cheating at that track I suppose. Nothing surprises me anymore at Yonkers. But that was insane. Almost 15 min inquiry for a "no change"
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He completely cut the corner while offstride and the 4 was lapped on. Very strange. I didn't bet the super but if I had the 4 there I'd be pissed.
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I was watching on tvg I said the samething how does the horse not come down. I didnt even bet the race but who knows what rules they have now, horses break -take out pylons-off the course and they leave them up. Meds monti buff sar Hoosier all different rules.
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It seems anything goes at Yonkers. But no doubt that 7 horse should have come down. That basically says drivers can go inside and leave the track then come back in and hit the board and not be taken down. Never seen that happen at any other track! Most likely judges had a super ticket with that horse. Still can't believe it.
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Wow & holy f--k! Someone should lose their job after that. There is no excuse for that kind of incompetence.
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different rules in different states
Mohawk has a dumb rule where if you are on a break for 25 strides thats a DQ--but 24 is ok
maybe they overlook the inside the pylons if they think it is a safety factor and there was an attempt to lose ground
we need uniformity on all pylon possible infractions-but we wont see it
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30+ years invested in Harness racing and I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. In addition to what's been said the horse didn't lose an inch of ground while breaking.
I can't come up with any scenario where that horse isn't disqualified. That is ridiculous. You can literally use three different reasons for making a DQ. Extended break, failure to lose ground while on a break, leaving the course, gaining an unfair advantage by going inside the pylons...
And how about the 4 losing fourth by a nose...Lachance probably didn't even bother asking the 4 because it was a no-brainer that horse would be DQ'ed so he would be placed fourth anyway.
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This reminds me of that time in 2008 at Western Fair where the 1/5 favorite is in the safety lane for the entire length of the stretch and wasn't DQ'd from first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET0pXNlenxo
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This reminds me of that time in 2008 at Western Fair where the 1/5 favorite is in the safety lane for the entire length of the stretch and wasn't DQ'd from first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET0pXNlenxo
wow
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This reminds me of that time in 2008 at Western Fair where the 1/5 favorite is in the safety lane for the entire length of the stretch and wasn't DQ'd from first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET0pXNlenxo
Owners went to court to get the purse money properly distributed but the bettors were pooched as per usual.
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wow
I was there that night. I may or may not have been the one who started the chorus" Bullshit...Bullsh it...Bullshit" as everyone in that section joined in to reverberate through the building. hvc.1 hvc.1
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He completely cut the corner while offstride and the 4 was lapped on. Very strange. I didn't bet the super but if I had the 4 there I'd be pissed.
this has been happening subtly and steadily for years, but now, after watching this race, the once proud Hilltop track has officially ---become an effin sewer. I don't want to hear talk about Montishitole or any other "B" track---whats being allowed by the judges is a joke. Hell, Judge Judy would do a better job. ...This old boys cronyism sterals money from the betting public.
Who do I see about that?
When they tear this track down, it wont be a day too soon....
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this has been happening subtly and steadily for years, but now, after watching this race, the once proud Hilltop track has officially ---become an effin sewer. I don't want to hear talk about Montishitole or any other "B" track---whats being allowed by the judges is a joke. Hell, Judge Judy would do a better job. ...This old boys cronyism sterals money from the betting public.
Who do I see about that?
When they tear this track down, it wont be a day too soon....
It's a shame they haven't closed this dump down. Should have went before Freehold. That race last night should make it so people don't watch or Wager on races at Yonkers. What that was last night was just bad. Nothing else to say other than AVOID THIS DUMP! I'd rather play Monti any day before Yonkers
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Just watched the replay, if nothing else, he should have been DQ'd for cutting the corner turning for home which saved several lengths. What's their explanation, he didn't go inside any pylons, which is true, but that's because when he cut the corner there were no pylons to go inside. Have no idea what the blind judges logic was for leaving him up.
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Judges should be required to explain their decision. the 7 horse just held on for 4th ( while leaving the track). He was also lapped on. Everyone needs an explanation for their decision to leave the 7 Up. It makes no sense.
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THE 4 CAUSED THE 7 TO RUN. THE 7 DRIVER DID EVERYTHING REQUIRED WHEN ON A BREAK . THE 4 WOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED BEHIND THE 7 BUT THE 7 FINNISHED AHEAD OF HIM SO THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A CHANGE IN THE ORDER OF FINNISH. LOOKED PRETTY SIMPLE TO ME ;D 73cv.2
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Lachance was half in/half out with the 4 from just past the 3/4’s pole.
Hershberger drove up the seam with the 7 but his horse caught Lachance’s wheel with his front right.
Judges deemed Lachance caused Hershberger horse to go off stride and leave the course.
Just look at the chart. They gave the 7 an interference break at 3/4’s before the stretch.
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In other words, the judges are ignoring everything that happened after that including cutting the corner and leaving the course.
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regardless of what caused it or the circumstances the 7 should be immediately disq from the race, end of story
a new bettor asks , why is the 7 allowed to go off stride and then go a significantly shorter distance than the other horses and still be allowed to come fourth
hmm, dont have an answer for that one
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regardless of what caused it or the circumstances the 7 should be immediately disq from the race, end of story
a new bettor asks , why is the 7 allowed to go off stride and then go a significantly shorter distance than the other horses and still be allowed to come fourth
hmm, dont have an answer for that one
;D LEARN THE GAME 73cv.2
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i dont need to learn the game
i know the game
and i know the problems and issues within the game
if you think that is a good luck for the game especially in trying to get sports bettors involved you are not thinking straight