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Harness Racing / Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
« Last post by Trigger on December 04, 2025, 02:50:50 PM »
The losers are the supporters and want to bet the BigM  tmbz1:

He supports cheats, yes, all over his track.  tmbz1

He allows CAW, yes and it's horrible for the gambler.  tmbz1

He has been unsuccessful in getting a casino since he started 14 years ago, yes.  tmbz1

Are gamblers and honest horseman, horses getting fucked at the BigM, yes.  tmbz1

Case fucking closed scumbags!   ;D
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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by Grandstand Handicapper on December 04, 2025, 02:03:59 PM »
If in fact they did have a 25% increase in handle, no, I don't think it has to do with the on-air product/offering/show. Maybe they lowered their takeout, maybe they cut a (new) deal with a CAW group, maybe nobody knows, LOL. Let's see what happens.

Lower the takeout, very substantially, wait, seriously wait, and watch what happens.
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    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

That's not a surprise. It's kind of like the party you are not invited to, LOL.
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Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.

Like some, maybe a few, I've been at the Meadowlands since it opened. Like many, while I am a "supporter" of Gural and what he's trying to do, I do not agree with everything he's done and how he goes about doing various things. I support him getting a casino. I give Gural credit for what he's done at the Meadowlands. I couldn't care less if he-----as people accuse him of-----whines, bitches, moans, etc. However, as it relates to "the product" being offered, the quality, and his position on CAW, I absolutely do not agree with any of what/where he's at. There is another meeting coming up in January on the CAW issue. The last meeting yielded some positive discussion. Whatever the outcome of this next meeting is, I don't know if he will implement any substantial, long-term action step on this or not.
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Harness Racing / Re: DOES THE MEADOWLANDS PAYS ALL HORSES THAT RACE AT THEIR TRACK
« Last post by JL52 on December 04, 2025, 12:13:11 PM »
So, beating 9 horses in a full field, earns you a lower percentage than beating 5 horses in a 6 horse field. That’s nuts.
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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by Calhoun on December 04, 2025, 11:49:53 AM »

25% increase in handle from where? I'm not buying the growth is organic or the on-air show is better.

Does the serious player actually watch/listen to the talking heads show? IDK but I'd say no.

Maybe Hoosier sweetened whatever deal they have with the CAWs?
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Harness Racing / Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
« Last post by Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:28:35 AM »
Oh its ok to be corrupt because everyone else is lol.
Pacer 2 thinks harness racing is thriving  ngc3

Just not in Florida and California  ngc3

He started that thread about what sport is not corrupt.

He, Pacer 2 is USTA all the way - I'll bet on it!  ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: Washington Park
« Last post by JL52 on December 04, 2025, 11:25:23 AM »
Wasn’t tbred Dr. Fager's Historic World Record Mile - 1968 (1:32 1/5) at Washington Park?
Or was it called the Washington Park Hcp at Arlington Park?
The Washington Park Hcap at Arlington.
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Harness Racing / Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
« Last post by Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:21:18 AM »
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

No one thinks it because you said it, that's ludicrous.

Corruption is unacceptable here or anywhere.

Harness Racing - Honest - fans, gamblers, horseman deserve better.

They've been failed by corrupt, incompetent involved parties.

Yes, harness racing needs to be killed in its current form, and if resurrected - by none of these associations, regulatory and usual suspects.

Die!  ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
« Last post by Mazola on December 04, 2025, 11:13:47 AM »
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

Oh its ok to be corrupt because everyone else is lol.
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