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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by bello on May 11, 2026, 08:23:59 PM »
Never relly watched there at Oak Grove..now i know not to ngc3

Yeah. Every race at Oak Grove is a lineup   BORING  and its tough figuring out who is more of a stiff Marcs Miller or Atlee Bender.  I have done ok there but I cannot stand Ray Kotolo and  Kleinheins handicapping the races and Rays yelling. Funny, I like listening to some handicappers like Mark and Andy Serling, but them just grate on me.
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by bello on May 11, 2026, 08:20:03 PM »
Race 4   I could not separate 3 horses

#3  10 year old moves into basement. Trainer is very good. Should get a perfect trip behind speedy 10
#4  Ships in from tougher circuit , first time on real sand
#10..long layoff but trainer has been on fire,

P5  3410/458/7/237/710
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by JT on May 11, 2026, 08:13:55 PM »
You know   I wrote them off after Mark left, but the races are so much more entertaining there than that crap I tuned into at OakGrove I came back
Never relly watched there at Oak Grove..now i know not to ngc3
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by bello on May 11, 2026, 08:07:09 PM »
I like me some Mighy Mountaineer every now and again, not nearly as good since Mark Patterson left. Yeah that poor #1 horse in the 2nd race... not good

You know   I wrote them off after Mark left, but the races are so much more entertaining there than that crap I tuned into at OakGrove I came back
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by JT on May 11, 2026, 08:03:21 PM »
#1 catastrophic breakdown backstretch.  If Petrelli ever watched the races from the Mountain he would move to west virginia.

No one was beating lose on lead #3 race 2

Race 3

#4  looks like a big favorite  BUT  he burns so much money that he is still risky at a short price
#7 Has speed which is hard to find in this rate. It would be no surprise if he breaks on top and waves goodbye  dd  47/3410
You called that to the T. tmbz1..now back to my mowing
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Harness Racing / Re: 2026 Preakness Field
« Last post by LUCPARK on May 11, 2026, 08:01:42 PM »
Tajh is really fast

Lots of speed in race

Incredbolt my pic

1000 to win
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by JT on May 11, 2026, 08:00:11 PM »
I like me some Mighy Mountaineer every now and again, not nearly as good since Mark Patterson left. Yeah that poor #1 horse in the 2nd race... not good
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: whatever happened to the 'green monkey'
« Last post by Calhoun on May 11, 2026, 07:53:38 PM »
good info thanks
i believe 'the green monkey' had royal breeding.
never oc knew before how the name came about
16 million, now thats gambling,, my biggest was $200  73cv.2
TGM was by Forestry, a son of Storm Cat.  Undridled mare.

We're going to start seeing Flightline's first 2 year olds soon. The big seller at OBS in March was hip 1056- since named Zedan -  sold for $10.5 Million. With Baffert now.

The seller of Zedan was Hartley DeRenzo of Ocala, They bought him as a wealing in 2024 for $500,000.

Hartley DeRenzo was also the seller of  The Green Monkey for $16Million. They bought TGM for $400k as a yearling.



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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Mountain Madness
« Last post by bello on May 11, 2026, 07:40:56 PM »
#1 catastrophic breakdown backstretch.  If Petrelli ever watched the races from the Mountain he would move to west virginia.

No one was beating lose on lead #3 race 2

Race 3

#4  looks like a big favorite  BUT  he burns so much money that he is still risky at a short price
#7 Has speed which is hard to find in this rate. It would be no surprise if he breaks on top and waves goodbye  dd  47/3410
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I believe cheaters had a lot to do with killing the sport. It leads to way to much chalk and boring races. The Meadowlands empty out many bettors got tired of the cheaters. Yonkers was no different. I had a group of friends that sat in the restaurant. They were small time owners and big bettors. The cheaters ran them out and made them sour.
No one wants to spend hours handicapping to have the cheats blow you away. Horse gamblers want to cash big tickets.
I also had many friends that switch to the runners or poker.
Fast forward to today and yes it is on life support. There are not many fans or bettors left. A few big barns do very well. The majority struggle to stay afloat. I listened to  LUCPARK's story. He has money, used big trainers, and lost much money.
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