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he has a YouTube channel? I'm sure it's filled with joy and happiness.

You misspelled FACTS.  tmbz1
Again, your star witness is an admitted race fixing criminal.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/01/sports/witnesses-identify-2-in-trifecta-case.html
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Harness Racing / Re: The Real Larry R. - NOT THIS BULLSHIT!
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 02:24:14 PM »


Why because he doesn’t care about Larry’s health?  Far from the worst thing said on here. Please stop trying to feel important!   tmbz1

Funny how these chicken shits suddenly have empathy for a guy who fucked God knows how many people in the game. I never wished anything bad on him, that happened naturally. And now he's making videos looking for people to feel sorry for him? Maybe it's time he TRULY realizes what he's done to people, not try to make a profit off it. And that wasn't going so well either, nobody's buying his bs life's story that's been heard countless times before. Oh the criminal who found God and wants to talk about it. Need I remind everyone, what he admitted doing breaks the rules and the law.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/01/sports/witnesses-identify-2-in-trifecta-case.html

1. It constitutes criminal fraud
Harness racing is closely tied to legalized pari-mutuel wagering. When someone fixes a race, they are deceiving bettors and the wagering system.
Common criminal charges include:
    • Fraud / scheme to defraud – Intentionally deceiving bettors to obtain money.
    • Conspiracy – Agreeing with others (drivers, trainers, bettors) to manipulate the outcome.
    • Sports bribery – Accepting or offering money or value to influence performance.
    • Wire fraud / mail fraud – If communications or bets cross state lines (federal charges).
    • Illegal gambling facilitation – Manipulating wagering outcomes.
These can be prosecuted at the state or federal level depending on scope.

2. It violates racing commission regulations
Every harness racing jurisdiction (such as the New York State Gaming Commission or New Jersey Racing Commission) has strict rules requiring participants to race honestly.
Typical regulatory violations include:
    • Not driving a horse to achieve the best possible placing
    • Intentionally restraining or “rating down” a horse to lose
    • Allowing another horse to win in exchange for money or favors
    • Providing inside information to bettors
    • Entering a horse not intended to compete honestly
Penalties can include:
    • License suspension or permanent revocation
    • Fines (often thousands of dollars)
    • Lifetime bans from racing
These administrative penalties apply even without criminal conviction.

3. It is specifically defined as “sports bribery”
Many states have explicit statutes covering bribery in sports contests, including horse racing.
For example, illegal conduct includes:
    • Paying a driver to lose
    • Offering money to influence race tactics
    • Accepting payment to manipulate race position
    • Coordinating betting based on predetermined outcomes
This is typically a felony offense.

4. It harms the wagering public and racing industry
Race fixing is illegal because it:
    • Defrauds bettors who rely on fair competition
    • Corrupts pari-mutuel wagering pools
    • Undermines public trust in racing
    • Violates licensing agreements with regulators
Because wagering integrity is the foundation of horse racing, fixing races is treated as a serious offense.

5. Examples of illegal race-fixing conduct in harness racing
Illegal acts include:
    • A driver intentionally holding back a favorite so another horse wins
    • Multiple drivers coordinating to allow a specific horse to win
    • Trainers entering horses not intended to perform competitively
    • Bettors bribing drivers with cash or future favors
    • Sharing insider agreements to place large bets on predetermined outcomes

6. Potential penalties
Depending on severity, penalties can include:
    • Felony conviction
    • Prison time (often several years)
    • Heavy fines
    • Permanent license revocation
    • Lifetime exclusion from racetracks
Federal cases have resulted in multi-year prison sentences in serious race-fixing schemes.

Summary
Race fixing in harness racing is illegal because it is a form of fraud and sports bribery that manipulates a regulated gambling activity. It violates both criminal law and racing regulations, and offenders can face prison, fines, and permanent bans from the sport.
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harness racing revolution

harness horses uncovered....

They gone into the night's grifting mist.

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he has a YouTube channel? I'm sure it's filled with joy and happiness.

https://youtu.be/3uf-IDuQY5g?si=tsC3lH5_SIXpopbr

At 9 minutes in this video he speaks volumes! But that's right I'm an idiot and beyond stupid. I've raised the family and have a lovely home I paid all my bills but I'm beyond stupid.
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Harness Racing / Re: The Real Larry R. - NOT THIS BULLSHIT!
« Last post by Sakit on Today at 02:21:48 PM »
Permanently banning Shopping Cart Mike is being discussed as the best way forward. Your thoughts?
it would be wise for the proprietors of this website to get rid of him and his sidekick trigger. They offer nothing in regards to harness racing.
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Harness Racing / Re: Larry Rolla tribute-well wishes
« Last post by Sakit on Today at 02:20:27 PM »
While i wish nobody suffering or death, Larry is not or never was a good guy like some might think. I raced against him years ago in monti. That being said i hope he does not suffer.
spoken like a man!!! I too wish Larry the best of health I don't want to see anybody suffer. Those who wish ill upon others will pay the price through karma.
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Harness Racing / Re: Larry Rolla tribute-well wishes
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on Today at 02:19:40 PM »
It's human nature to hate people who wronged you or who you despise. But very few act on those impulses. The ones who do are sitting in prison. As for anyone in this group, I dislike only one. But I care so little about him, he is irrelevant to me. LOL!

It's difficult to "hate" people who feel empowered while hiding their true identity. Very easy to say as you wish without repercussion hiding like a coward. Even funnier is they actually believe they've accomplished something while doing it. If what they have to say is factual, why the need to hide? However, there are instances where they are found out. Example, when is the last time "Gaagoots" logged in? Now he has to answer for EVERY COMMENT he's ever made here. And that will happen, believe me.  tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Prez Day Double Hitter - Turf Paradise & Mohawk
« Last post by Trigger on Today at 02:09:57 PM »
 Turf Paradise                
   Race 3    5.00    WIN    1    5.00
   Race 3    1.00    EX    1 / 1+2+4+5+6    4.00
   Race 3    0.50    TRI    1 / 1+2+4+5+6 / 1+2+4+5+6    6.00
   Race 3    0.10    SPR    1 / 1+2+4+5+6 / 1+2+4+5+6 / 1+2+4+5+6    2.40
   Race 3    2.00    DBL    1 / 4+5    4.00
   Race 3    0.50    PK3    1 / 4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    8.00
   Race 3    0.50    PK4    1 / 4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2    8.00
   Race 3    1.00    QU    1 / 1+2+4+5+6    4.00
   Race 4    2.00    WIN    4+5    4.00
   Race 4    1.00    EX    BX+4+5    2.00
   Race 4    0.50    TRI    4+5 / 4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    5.00
   Race 4    0.10    SPR    4+5 / 4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    4.00
   Race 4    1.00    QU    4+5 / 4+5    1.00
   Race 4    1.00    DBL    4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    16.00

Woodbine Mohawk (H)                
   Race 3    4.00    WIN    7    4.00
   Race 3    1.00    EX    7 / 1+2+4    3.00
   Race 3    0.20    TRI    7 / 1+2+4 / 1+2+4    1.20
   Race 3    0.20    SPR    7 / 1+2+4 / 1+2+4 / 1+2+4    1.20
   Race 3    2.00    DBL    7 / 3    2.00
   Race 3    0.20    PK3    7 / 3 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    1.80
   Race 4    4.00    WIN    3    4.00
   Race 4    0.20    TRI    3 / 1+2+6+7+8 / 1+2+6+7+8    4.00
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: RIP John Sherrifs
« Last post by Grandstand Handicapper on Today at 02:01:45 PM »
Zenyatta, /giacamo ,,,, two of my favorites.

RIP

 tmbz1

I met John Shirreffs. He sat next to me on a flight from FL to NY. Humble, very personable, classy guy. A true gentleman.
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Harness Racing / Re: Larry Rolla tribute-well wishes
« Last post by Any1Left on Today at 01:53:50 PM »
My whole life has been gaming and in all forms of it you have to watch every move and figure out that something stinks when logic is out of whack,      i remember sitting at a poker table and seeing this guy get murdered every day and everybody was telling him how his luck was so bad and then i started to get so sick of his losses and feeling that the losses were starting to hurt that i began to tell him about his mistakes and i got attacked by most at the table and even though poker was by far my best gamble it was always the track that gave me the most happiness and the huge payoffs and great action in some races where great memories but those memories have faded and its not the LARRY ROLLAS of the world that hurt this game as much as the chemists and management that killed racing with management looking to never care about the public from serving food that should not be served to allowing corruption exist like the chi town police when allowing CAPONE to run the city,        Most people joined this site to talk racing and this site is now a JERRY SPRINGER type form and the issues are so real in horse racing at the moment  that when ever i see an overlay it usually going to get a bad drive and be out of position and i never would of ever started in this game with todays racing because its not fun to always worry about being cheated,,,,,,,,,,  I remember 1991 when 9/11 happened and hearing about hundreds of police officers and firemen going up in a building and knowing that there was a good chance of life ending and saying to myself when i heard how many had died that this world was not as bad as i thought and have watched the YANKEE stadium tribute well over a hundred times and saying to myself that was a sad day but the kindness was the greatist thing i have ever seen and when it comes to racing i can not believe the lack of pride in the harness game that i see and only when watching a TB race and see a jockey thank everyone in the barn and the owners do i feel some honesty in racing,     We live for moments and the harness game is void of moments from all the greed and you just have to look at the otb near my house were there was always 25 people or more in it and now they close the doors at 9 because no one is there,
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