Excellent point. Tony was the PR guy, and was far more comfortable dealing with owners, relationship management, etc.-----and I know some of the owners were more comfortable dealing with Tony than Erv.

Way back it was similar with David Rovine and Joe Holloway. David was 1000% salesman, the ultimate promoter. Joe was the horseman. When Joe went on his own, the Rovine model just fell apart. Joe of course had to become the lead guy, do more PR, relationship management, and turn into a salesman a bit, and he did. He learned, LOL.

Joe has always been a great ambassador for the sport. Great trainer.

Go fuck yourself Maury!

About damn time!  Its been time.  Lots of bad drives and stiff jobs and also dq's lately.  Seems they have been watching him a lot lately at Saratoga.  He gets a dq almost every day now lol

       How much crack do you smoke in a day? IDIOT! 

About damn time!  Its been time.  Lots of bad drives and stiff jobs and also dq's lately.  Seems they have been watching him a lot lately at Saratoga.  He gets a dq almost every day now lol

How much crack do you smoke in a day? Wally is the best driver at Saratoga hands down! He misses the first two months leaves before December and finishes 2 or 3 in the standings.  I'll miss the wally world!

They paid their dues and learned. Paid nearly 1 million for a trotter ( Detour Hanover) years ago at a sale, and the horse was a total dud. They've adapted now nicely.