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The O.T. / Re: Just like to mention:
« Last post by Kirby's Ace on December 08, 2025, 06:23:35 PM »
JFA...All kidding aside if I can help in anyway just pm me!

 tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Welcome back to Dover Downs and racing for 2nd!
« Last post by Kirby's Ace on December 08, 2025, 06:18:47 PM »
Tonight, at racing for 2nd we have the 9th race #1. Same connections as the last meets champion with A Davis looking to retain his crown. Get your place bets in folks! One more win and out of that class.
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Harness Racing / Re: HORSES ON DEALS WHEN A MEET ENDS
« Last post by The Unstable on December 08, 2025, 06:13:28 PM »
$400. How generous of you. Pay 1/2 what it would cost at a turnout farm and the trainer gets to pay the mortgage and taxes on the property

I help them pay their mortgage when they race our horses during the year. It's called earning a living. Or do you think they make zero money all year? This time of the year we just break even both us and them, they are not losing or making.  You have no idea how well I treat the people who train for me so your comment is worthless.  So yes this is fair.

This is all said by the guy who likes the idea of starving people by cutting food stamps and health care subsidies. So please don't lecture me on generosity.
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Harness Racing / Re: The End of Harness Racing is Accelorating
« Last post by The Unstable on December 08, 2025, 06:06:44 PM »
It's always about horse racing welfare here , but now come the farmers welfare subsidies again due to tariffs.  All to the tune of 12 Billion dollars in handouts on top of what they get already making 40 billion for the year. Trump gave them 23 extra Billion on top last time due his tariffs in his first term . Plenty of them have tons of  money who will get them, some are near bankruptcy.  But that welfare and socialism is ok correct? 

PS the farmers wanted to work for a living, the tariffs and cutting food programs for the poor where the government bought their surpluses destroyed that for them. But it is selective "welfare" as other industries are affected negatively by the tariffs too.  It turn out John Deere Tractors have gone up in price and cost that company 600 million dollars due to tariffs and caused an increase in the price of tractors which is you guess it, paid by the same farmers getting bailed out. But since the farmers have no money they can't afford to buy them anyway! Oh and John Deere laid off 330 American workers due to the tariffs to contain costs and due to low demand.

Guess who else buys tractors and farm equipment that costs them more, yes harness racing people.  Everyone pays the tariffs and loses. 
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Harness Racing / Re: The End of Harness Racing is Accelorating
« Last post by Racetime on December 08, 2025, 06:06:04 PM »
If I remember right horsemen across the country rallied to have the Casino's to be put at the tracks so they could continue to race without having any fans to support them.
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Harness Racing / Re: The End of Harness Racing is Accelorating
« Last post by Trigger on December 08, 2025, 06:01:44 PM »
The casinos were put in to help the state governments that continuously waste money. In order to get the voter’s approval they needed the racetracks to agree to have them on their property. In order to get the support needed the states gave horse racing a very small piece of the pie

Now it's time to decouple and turn the small piece which is gigantic compared to before and turn it into no piece and kick out all the corrupt assholes.

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Harness Racing / Re: Mohawk Monday
« Last post by Trigger on December 08, 2025, 05:58:19 PM »
Race#10-#5 BRONX DRIFTER 3-1 ML Faded late last week after being parked past the quarter, hitting the half in 55:1. Should be tight tonight after being off almost a month, trucking from the Maritimes. I’d expect a better effort tonight.

Race#11-#7 CARSONBUCKNGO 4-1 ML Took back from the rail last week, expect different tactics tonight in the finale. There’s a chance #5 runs off the screen but he will be offered up below even money. See if McNair can map out a trip tonight.

Best of luck!  tmbz1

That 10th one is tough, I see the 3,4,7,9...in the 11th the 1 & 5, and I think you're right the 5 is going to be bet to hell.
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Harness Racing / Re: The End of Harness Racing is Accelorating
« Last post by Stan durbread on December 08, 2025, 05:50:09 PM »
Most tracks lose money every time they race cause 2% of online wagering doesn't cover the cost of racing Roberts, International Sound, United Tote,  Judges, Racing Office, Track Crew and what other cost there are. Live handle is dead there are usually more people in the Paddock than the Stands. Purse money comes the Casino's that were put in place to save Racing and we all see how well that worked.
The casinos were put in to help the state governments that continuously waste money. In order to get the voter’s approval they needed the racetracks to agree to have them on their property. In order to get the support needed the states gave horse racing a very small piece of the pie
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Harness Racing / Re: The End of Harness Racing is Accelorating
« Last post by Racetime on December 08, 2025, 05:12:00 PM »
Most tracks lose money every time they race cause 2% of online wagering doesn't cover the cost of racing Roberts, International Sound, United Tote,  Judges, Racing Office, Track Crew and what other cost there are. Live handle is dead there are usually more people in the Paddock than the Stands. Purse money comes the Casino's that were put in place to save Racing and we all see how well that worked.
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Harness Racing / Re: Two year old drops dead at DOVER this week
« Last post by Kenny on December 08, 2025, 05:09:44 PM »
So sad.......forum willing to discuss who has sex with who.....but an innocent 2 year old  dropping dead doesn't seem to matter to anyone.......trai ner happens to be GEORGE TEAGUE's granddaughter

Notice no Trigger on this thread.
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