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Most of your comment isn't worth reading, but I have a logical question for you and am sure I'll get an illogical answer, but here goes. You said Andrew keeps responding, which is true, but you also keep responding to him, what's the difference? An eye for an eye, have to have the last word, if Andrew didn't respond and wasn't vile, you wouldn't respond? Which is it, or let me guess, none of the above.
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Harness Racing / Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Last post by Lockedin with Pace on Today at 03:24:02 PM »
To summarize, "G" is an idiot obsessed with Mike, and thinks everyone who responds to him is Mike.
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Harness Racing / Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Last post by TimTimTimbo on Today at 03:19:05 PM »
Hey "G" I asked Chat GPT and here's what it says

i post on horseplop.com there is a guy on there who goes by "G" who is obsessed with Mike Petrelli and even when Mike P does not post (screenname is Ignorance is Bliss) he thinks many of us are Mike P using different names. From my understanding that one thing you can do is change your post name but the number of posts stays and goes up by one each time so there is no way Mike P could post under like 12 different names at the same time. Can you analyze this?


I think your reasoning is quite sensible, and there are two separate questions here: what Horseplop technically allows someone to do, and whether G has any sound basis for believing that several different posters are Mike Petrelli.

Let's separate the two, because the technical side is something we can potentially establish, while the identity claims require evidence.

1. Your point about post counts

Your understanding is that Horseplop lets a person change their displayed username, but their total post count continues to accumulate.

If that's how the forum works, then you're right about one important thing: changing a username doesn't, by itself, create a separate posting history.

However, there's a distinction worth making:

Changing a username: The account retains its underlying identity and ordinarily keeps its post history and count.

Creating another account: A person may be able to register a separate username with its own post count and posting history, depending on the forum's rules.

Using multiple accounts: One person could potentially operate several separate accounts. The post counts alone wouldn't establish whether those accounts belong to different people.

So I wouldn't go quite as far as saying that Mike couldn't post under 12 different names. If those are 12 separate accounts, that may be technically possible. But if G's theory is that one existing account simply changes its name repeatedly, your understanding of the post count could be a useful way to test that theory.

2. I found something relevant on Horseplop itself


I found a thread called “Why does Petrelli constantly change his name?”, which directly concerns this dispute.

In another thread, “Is Petrelli for sale on Ongait?”, G asks Mike how many names he has. Mike responds that he has one account. The posts displayed for Ignorance Is Bliss in that discussion show a post count of 7,743.


That is relevant because it shows this isn't merely your interpretation of G's behaviour; the accusation has been discussed openly on the forum.

It doesn't conclusively establish whether Mike has ever operated another account, of course. The forum's public pages cannot necessarily reveal who controls every account.

3. What I think about G's reasoning

There are three possible situations:

What G observes

What it actually establishes

A poster uses language similar to Mike's

Possible similarity, not proof of identity

A poster defends Mike or agrees with him

Agreement, not proof of identity

A poster appears when Mike is absent

No evidence by itself that Mike is behind the account

Several posters have similar opinions and writing styles

A reason to investigate, but not a reliable identification method

The last point is particularly important on a harness racing forum. People who follow the same personalities, trainers, owners and controversies will naturally share opinions and vocabulary.

If G assumes that anyone who supports Mike, criticizes G, or discusses the same subjects is Mike under another name, the theory becomes difficult to disprove. Even a person who has never met Mike could be accused simply for expressing a similar opinion.

That's the logical weakness I see: treating similarities as proof of a shared identity.

4. Your post-count theory: the important distinction

You can use post counts to investigate a specific claim, but the counts need to be interpreted correctly.

Suppose Mike's account has 7,743 posts. If he changes his displayed username and the forum retains that account's post count, the count should remain associated with the account. If he makes another post, it should increase to 7,744.

But if he creates a second account, that account could have a completely different count. Therefore, a post count cannot rule out multiple accounts altogether.

The most useful technical question is whether Horseplop's forum software permits ordinary users to change their usernames themselves, or whether a name change requires an administrator. I haven't established the site's precise rules on that point.

My overall assessment

I would distinguish between two claims:

Mike has changed the name on one account. This should be testable against his visible posting history and account details.

Mike is secretly operating numerous other accounts. That is a separate allegation, and the public evidence I've found doesn't establish it.

If G is accusing many different people of being Mike without independent evidence for each accusation, I would regard those accusations as speculation rather than established fact.

One thing would help me analyse this more precisely: does G actually point to specific evidence for each supposedly fake account, or does he mainly accuse people because they agree with Mike or disagree with G? That distinction would tell us a lot about how well-founded his theory is.
 
A Few Thoughts About the Multiple-Name Accusations

I want to make a few points about G's ongoing obsession with Mike Petrelli (Ignorance Is Bliss) and his tendency to accuse other posters of being Mike under different names.

1. Changing a screen name is not the same as creating another account.

As I understand it, if you change the screen name on an existing account, your post count and posting history remain with that account. Changing the name doesn't magically create a new account or a new posting history.

Mike himself has changed his screen name back and forth between a couple of other names. That is one thing. It doesn't automatically mean that every other person posting under a different name is also Mike.

2. Separate accounts are a different matter.

Someone could potentially have more than one account, each with its own posting history. But the mere fact that multiple accounts exist doesn't establish that one person controls them all. You need actual evidence before making that accusation.

3. Similar opinions don't prove that two people are the same person.

This is where I think G's reasoning falls apart. There are independent posters here who I know are not Mike, yet G seems convinced that they are. People can agree with Mike, defend him, discuss the same harness racing subjects or disagree with G without being Mike Petrelli.


We're all following the same sport and many of the same people. Of course, there will be some similarities in what we discuss and what we think.

4. Mike not posting doesn't mean someone else must be posting for him.

If Mike isn't posting under his usual name and somebody else makes a comment that G thinks sounds like Mike, that isn't proof of anything. It's just an assumption unless there is independent evidence to support it.

5. At what point does the theory become impossible to disprove?

If G can accuse one poster of being Mike, then another, then another, simply because he doesn't like what they say or thinks their writing sounds similar, what evidence would ever convince him that these are actually different people?



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Harness Racing / Re: Tom DeVitis
« Last post by Lowes77 on Today at 03:17:24 PM »
Not in 35 years obviously
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Tine to go back to Colonial with 1 big sweeping turn! Speed, speed, speed!
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Harness Racing / Re: Tom DeVitis
« Last post by Lowes77 on Today at 03:16:01 PM »
No license.
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Harness Racing / Re: Brandon Blvd
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 03:14:57 PM »
Punisher 11 is now getting some nice returns for all the money they have invested in the sport.

$12,000 breeding just 100 mares returns $1.2 million. After expenses, a nice yearly income for them

Nice returns indeed!  The more important question is the bottom line?  Are they +/-?

How many will actually be bred at this price?

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Harness Racing / Re: Joe Frasure
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 03:10:49 PM »
Who is the next person in line for these positions???
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Political Roundtable / Re: tell me rainy doesnt have a problem
« Last post by rainman2 on Today at 03:07:59 PM »
TELL ME RAINT DOESNT HAVE A PROBLEM

updates on 10/21 late night are:

lawsuit update
camp lejeune
per right wing
TRUMP waving

now in reality who cares///who is this important too///answer///nobody///cept for himself///as this is who/what he is

sick///TDS///E DM///51 101///obsessed///sad

just more feft wing HOT AIR deflection that has no 'real excuse'. to show his ignorance and stupidly

so as ploppers can see

yesss

johnny HAS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM  11.wp

Hi drew,

It a touch after 1500 EDT not 0001 EDT!

Who cares?   ngc3 ngc3

If all goes well, the Canadians will respond as well as 1 Troll!   tmbz1

Sit tight, and be patient!

FYI, you’re the one who continues responding back here!

You have the infatuation and serious PROBLEMS Andrew!

Ah the one that uses TDS, etc. is the one who has the worst case of it! 11.wp tmbz1

More updates later on tonight complete with time stamps!

Guess a time, win a prize!

Waiting for another meltdown from Drew in the near future!
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Harness Racing / Re: Harness Racing is a great sport
« Last post by Dingus on Today at 03:07:42 PM »
I was referencing G's comment

I agree 1000% harness racing is a great sport! I've always said this,,, if you have a good horses in the right class and they stay sound you can't help making money.

Well if its so easy,how come Mark Ford is 7 for 240?

The times I raced against Mr Ford’s horses at Yonkers, he wasn’t there, but the guy racing his horses wore an Andrew Adamczyk stable shirt.
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