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Harness Racing / Re: Another one off to stud
« Last post by Grandstand Handicapper on Today at 04:42:25 PM »
laag, you are correct and just like all markets it will correct
survival of the fittest in the short term
will certainly keep stud fees low on the mediocre ones and gives breeders lots of choice
of course still waiting for confederate, cannibal, legendary hanover etc so yes the market is flooded on both pacers and trotters
you would think that with the kentucky 4 yr old program ( which is excellent) and the aged series offered at yonkers that more owners would race at 4 and 5
but the quick money of breeding is to tempting, assume 100 bookings at  $10,000 per and you have $1,000,000 without racing
but if they don't hit in year one or two they are toast and quickly become an afterthought and a regional sire mostly for people breeding to race their own stock

Age old argument. For a true, real, top horse, the class leader, even the second best horse, unfortunately, the economics dictate. If you have a farm willing to front the money, syndicate him, and then pay you the remainder, you simply can't race. Very little upside, and a lot of downside. It sucks, but it's the economics. The commercial breeders drive the boat and they are hurting the industry as a whole.

In this case, with your example, actually, if he breeds 100 mares, it's typically stud fee paid on live foal. Conservative figures are 80%, but many farms run calculations based upon 90% (depending on how he tested). So you have 80 to 90 paid stud fees.....if everyone pays, LOL. Also, don't forget the so called "year one" is not today, LOL. When the mares foal, they are weanlings, next year yearlings, and then the next year they hopefully hit the track as 2yo's. How they look, sell, and race.....each step gets you closer to success or failure, LOL.
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Harness Racing / Re: yonkers announcer
« Last post by Brooklyn Brawler on Today at 03:49:07 PM »
Total clown - I think his name is Joe Romaniello.
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Yes, then more take their place as the honest ones are forced out
    Most of the honest ones thrive with cheaters gone.....
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Harness Racing / Re: Another one off to stud
« Last post by Meadow Ford on Today at 03:35:03 PM »
the quick money of breeding is to tempting, assume 100 bookings at  $10,000 per and you have $1,000,000 without racing

100 bookings doesn't = 100 paid stud fees.
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Harness Racing / Re: HOOSIER PARK
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 03:27:01 PM »
All time record handle this meet tmbz1
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that's one list i don't want to be on   ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Trigger on Today at 03:23:48 PM »
Mike and Mike’s puppet you both are really going to feel stupid if they walk which they will incidentally

Sakit and Cashout you're really going to bat for your buddy here.

Mike and I are having a conversation.

You two numskulls are actual stooges, defenders of this sourpuss.  On repeat the same boring shit over and over.

Let's see...

(A) dialogue with and be supportive of an animal advocate and animal advocacy, seeing harness racing being regulated, and lawfulness.

Or

(B) of a multimillionaire cheating horse drugging narcissistic cuntface?

"A" is my final answer!   ;D
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Harness Racing / Re: everyone hates yonkers ...buy??
« Last post by sledge hammer on Today at 03:13:53 PM »
Their handle is down almost 50% over the last few years...Sad. Same horses, same drivers, boring. Almost like an exclusive club that has access to millions and millions of annual welfare money.
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Harness Racing / Re: Wally hanging them up?
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 03:11:34 PM »
He's a tough competitor and when the money's on the line he often elevates his driving and rises to the occassion.
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Harness Racing / Re: everyone hates yonkers ...buy??
« Last post by Pacer 2 on Today at 03:09:38 PM »
I like Yonkers.....
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