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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 11:02:20 PM »
    Of course they test. How dumb are you?

Not as dumb as you think---do they get caught is a better question!
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Harness Racing / Re: Plainridge Park Judges
« Last post by Pacer 2 on May 21, 2026, 11:01:43 PM »
Calvin Borel made it more famous and way before Zeron.

   Thats not harness! 
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Pacer 2 on May 21, 2026, 11:00:49 PM »
Are there any rules at Pocono?

Do they test there?

This is a sample of who you are racing against:

Eckley, Taneyhill, Pena, Chrissman Jr., Belcher, Brittney Dillon, etc al
    Of course they test. How dumb are you?
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 11:00:34 PM »
owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.

Where was Ohio racing before VLT'S-both in overnight and sires stakes?

Where is it today?
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Pacer 2 on May 21, 2026, 10:59:50 PM »
i still do not understand why some continue to reference "casino welfare money"
does nobody recall that this transaction was part of the agreement that allowed casinos to gain a foothold by entering via racetracks
time does not diminish nor make an agreement less relevant or legal
if anything the casinos have not held up their end of the bargain at some of the tracks, they do nothing to promote or enhance racing and now would like to welch on their agreement and decouple
tmbz1 tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: More evidence harness racing is thriving
« Last post by Pacer 2 on May 21, 2026, 10:58:50 PM »
owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.
https://ustrottingnews.com/harness-racing-stars-at-philly-for-super-sunday/
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Harness Racing / Re: Plainridge Park Judges
« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 10:39:52 PM »
Horses come up the rail at all tracks. Zeron makes a living at it in huge-money races.

Calvin Borel made it more famous and way before Zeron.
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Harness Racing / Re: Gamblers are really the suckers!
« Last post by Sweet on May 21, 2026, 10:37:54 PM »
I have one friend his name is FRANKIE

The rest are humans 🙄

Bullseye!  tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Brett Beckwith
« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 10:35:12 PM »
i understand your point rainman
however assuming they want the 5% regardless of ownership would assume these guys try to win every race they drive in, given the comments i see on this site many would strongly disagree this is the case
also drivers owning horses may work opposite to your theory, since they own the horse they may actually race less aggressive some nights not wanting to hurt the horse( their investment)
either way i just think it is unnecessary and problematic
as for amateur races, they should be non wagering and certainly not held at the big m, however if people are wagering on them than they will continue

If you draw 7 & 8 on a 1/2 mile Track and 8 & 9 on a 5/8 mile Track, chances are the drive will be less aggressive.  As an owner, I hope for a check in this scenario, and I say thank you if it happens!  Tough to bet outside posts too.  If there is no interest on the tote board, you have to assume a less aggressive drive!

Look at the money they bet on amateur races!  In some cases, more than regular races!  More value as a bettor but more unpredictable because of the drivers involved!
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Harness Racing / Re: Brett Beckwith
« Last post by Bitter Truth on May 21, 2026, 10:33:26 PM »
Still time for some on here to stock up with tissues and hand cream, because I see precious Brett
is going to be on The Big M show tomorrow night. Be still my beating heart. ;D
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