I am really happy you post here because you are rare on this form and understand this game, Years ago i met a man in California that was one of the great handicappers on the planet and his name was jimmy the hat and i think he might have some videos online and Jimmy told me and 10-15 years ago that putting the tough puzzle of betting races was getting to easy and that would make him drop his bets because field were to short and prices were getting smaller every year, Jimmy was featured on a breeders cup show a few times and was asked why he dominated the pik 6 pool in california like no one else and he just used the hard work theory and one of the funny things for me was every time i invested into his tickets it was a disaster and everyone i spoke with had great results but one day Jimmy told me that the rules always changed in gaming and he adjusted to the changes but new changes that were happening and payoffs being way to short that it might be time to quit and that threw me into shock and i have now not spoken to him in years but he saw the this before i could see it. Now getting back to what you were talking about PAPILLON i am really not sure how they are beating the system but for sure you are 100 percent right on money showing up after the bell and no gambler i have spoken to thinks anything else but i have heard many ways of how this is happening and it is happening, This guys article brings nothing new to me or people i know ut he does a great job talking about it, Dana Parham and many others have closed up shop when Elite came in because they could not compete and lets be honest for a group that bets 40 percent of money bet and claims it extracts value from seeing all moneys bet and seeing underlay after underlay win at all trot tracks it shocks me how they are not been investigated because they are not getting value from FLAMBORO WESTERN FAIR MOHAWK NORTHFIELD OR any harness track with winners dropping 80 percent in odds at times leaving a gate, 20 years ago fixing this game was about lowering rake and the drug issue getting to strong and its shocking to me that those issues are minor compared to the huge issues today, Dead money has to be at a certain level for there to be a chance and that might never happen again. I remember knowing many high end gamblers who posted on this site and all are gone and never coming back and this morning seeing this guys post about something that mattered was shocking because its been a long time and i thank him for his post.
sincere thank you for the kind words
I am receiving less and less resistance about the betting after the bell-----since 2010 when my eyes were opened by a very good friend and I have been screaming it and pointing out examples--but for a decade I was mocked for having such "preposterous" theories--but almost everyone has finally realized it is happening everyday
you made a comment a few days ago about the days when it was obvious when a 2/5 shot would go off at such low odds and now there is no way of telling which mystery horse will go off 2/5...you certainly cant tell by the past performances--that comment you made really nailed it accurately and hit home--i miss those days when you had to be at the track to make a bet, there were NO rebates(which helped ruin the game for the gambler)and NO betting after the bell.
as Carroll O'connor and Jean Stapleton would sing...."Those were the days"
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