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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:22:44 PM »
I think you mean “rational”, unless it’s a Freudian slip on your part.
yes thank you
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:21:52 PM »
I don't think HT is that stupid
it has nothing to do with stupidity
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:21:09 PM »
I would say that's about true (70%) but most owners don't get billed directly from the source and not question what they're buying.
Might be different if trainer just added it to the bill for training.
I never had my owners pay directly for anything. (except maybe a vet bill) But never for a pre-race or any medications I were using.
I think I agree with that. That’s a pretty accurate statement.
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:16:57 PM »
OHH IM DEFINITELY A FORD SUPPORTER. FUTURE GOVERNOR FORD IS GONNA DO GREAT. BUT THE CHAPSTICK IS A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION FOR GAY LOVERS ANDREW & SWEET! 
I think they’re both Mikeeee
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:15:51 PM »
THIS IS AN EZ ONE. FUTURE GOVERNOR MARK FORD
Mark Ford is an American trainer of Standardbred horses in harness racing, best known for conditioning Gallo Blue Chip, the 2000 Harness Horse of the Year and the sport's then-richest pacer with career earnings of $4,260,959. A native of Lewisburg, West Virginia, Ford is a first-generation horseman who began his career working with prominent trainers Clint Galbraith and Ted Wing, quickly establishing himself as one of the sport's elite conditioners.
Ford achieved several historic milestones early in his career, becoming the youngest trainer to surpass career earnings of $10 million, $20 million, $30 million, $40 million, $50 million, and $60 million. He is the only trainer to win two million-dollar races before turning 30 and has secured training titles at major venues including Meadowlands Racetrack and Yonkers Raceway. Among his other notable horses are millionaires Whosurboy, Turnpike Token, Armbro Animate, Stonebridge Kisses, and Self Professed; top performer On The Attack; and double-gaited world champion Six Day War. Ford maintains one of North America's largest stables, competing regularly at key tracks such as Yonkers Raceway, Meadowlands Racetrack, The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono, and Woodbine Mohawk Park for prominent owners.
In 2008, Ford opened the Mark Ford Training Center in Middletown, New York, a state-of-the-art facility featuring expansive barns and a five-eighths-mile track, strategically located near top racing venues in the Northeast. He has also held leadership roles in the industry, including serving as president of the Standardbred Breeders and Owners Association of New Jersey since 2015 and as a director for District 8 on the United States Trotting Association board, with his term expiring in 2027.
👏👏 Mikeee what are your accomplishments? Can’t wait to hear this bullshit story.
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« Last post by Cashout on September 02, 2026, 06:14:22 PM »
One vote for Mike P alias SCM
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:14:13 PM »
From what I’m reading here, you must know who G is since he said he put several deals together with Lou.
True?
i’m sure he does but why do you give a shit!?
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:10:58 PM »
Can't say I specifically remember Vic. I didn't know Dr. Seeber very well. Like with virtually everyone else, just from being around the track and in the business for many years. The one assistant I do remember meeting and actually getting to know a bit-----and personally, I think he was perhaps Dr. Seeber's best protege who went on to be a top/leading vet-----had the initials SA.
I always got along with Seeber but he wasn’t the easiest guy in the world to deal with the times to save the least.
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:09:14 PM »
Can't say I specifically remember Vic. I didn't know Dr. Seeber very well. Like with virtually everyone else, just from being around the track and in the business for many years. The one assistant I do remember meeting and actually getting to know a bit-----and personally, I think he was perhaps Dr. Seeber's best protege who went on to be a top/leading vet-----had the initials SA.
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« Last post by G on September 02, 2026, 06:08:11 PM »
Lou brought huge Wall Street money to the table. Many investors for the first time in the industry. These were investors--doctors--lawyers--professionals folks into a new type opportunity. Heavily involved in SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS and John Signorelli as well as ALMAHURST FARMS and P.J. Baugh-----both fantastic gentlemen and wonderful humans! John in fact had a patent on the PVC pipe white picket fence and had SARATOGA listed for public trading. Jack Baugh did tens of millions of dollars in business in the ALMAHURST LP PROGRAMS of which Lou managed. These folks were strong financially and Lou brought this type into the business and then they brought their friends into the business. Lou even hired publicist to advertise and market the horses. They even created the song-----"NIHILATOR!' I believe I still have the tapes of the song.
Lou did buy the EAGLES for $20 million----he had length the owner approximately $20 million to resolve some personal debt and used the EAGLES as collateral as per Lou. I assume that Lou eventually sold back---much more to the facts except I believe in letting these folks RIP. Either way Lou did own the EAGLES at one point. Lou made a fortune on car washes and a finance company in New Jersey many years after shining shoes in Jersey on the boardwalk at his dads barber shop.
The lawsuit with Ms. Berger and Clint never should of occurred but it did and was resolved and Lou continued with his ownership group of Nihilator and the folks listed above were heavily involved as well Again, all these folks were great for this business.
lou eventually opened a stable in Italy and was extremely successful with Jerry Riordan who trained horses for Lou for many years. In later years we attempted to buy the Italian Racing Stable that was very successful but came close but never closed i was so lucky to spend over 50 years as a very close friend to Lou and his wonderful family. They truly were all wonderful folks and it was folks like Mr. Guida that inspired many to attempt to revolutionize the sport!
God, there will never be another era like the good old days!
This is an amazing post by a poster that is knowledgeable! I’m pretty sure I know who you are and you probably know who I am but I could tell you one thing this is a well written poster that really knows Lou!
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