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comeonman

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2018, 11:28:46 AM »
the rule will be passed soon as it is on the agenda. must have both hands in each line and can only whip like that. no more reaching back and hitting. that's in nj

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2018, 12:35:00 PM »
Plain and simple, if you've ever broke one or driven you know a whip is "necessary". Rifling one isn't. If used as a tool correctly a horse never feels pain or gets hurt. And yes you can drive just as effectively with both hands in the handholds. The new trick of moving your handholds behind your back and choking up should be addressed too. Can't count how many times I've seen someone getting run away with in a hole or in trouble when trouble arises.

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2018, 05:09:22 PM »
Had the great Tim T carve up one of mine this year. Came back with 3 long welts on his back. The horse is as honest as they come and I think it effected him for a few races after. Guess T has no hands. All I know is he will never drive for me again. Not against the whip at all, as others said it is often a must. But there is a line where it becomes abuse.

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2018, 05:40:40 PM »
Bond, have you witnessed John Macdonald at Pompano? He reaches back, lifts himself out of the seat and swings the whip with as much force as he can muster up!! Read my thread and review the video replay from Pompano. Also watch the very next race which he does it again to a horse who is FAR out of contention!
There is a woman right now sitting in jail because she was too lazy to put her kid on the school bus.
As a Society we need to punish individuals who do the wrong thing and make them accountable
Same goes for drivers who abuse horses and judges who let it happen right in front of their noses
The new whipping rules are a must and judges enforce rules for a change

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2018, 06:16:21 PM »
You know those greyhound protest  people need something to do now...harness racing is next with their long whips and their 40 starts in a year...somebody's gonna notice.

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2018, 08:47:03 PM »
Yeah, "BAND" them you ignorant asshole!

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2018, 10:11:32 PM »
You know those greyhound protest  people need something to do now...harness racing is next with their long whips and their 40 starts in a year...somebody's gonna notice.

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2018, 10:54:49 PM »
Chip Noble hardly ever used the whip and he is in the Hall of Fame.  He said it actually slowed horses down and was the sign of a lazy driver on a poorly trained horse.  I agree. 

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2018, 11:32:37 PM »
 Never raced a horse - but back in the motherland we never use the whip with any animals pulling the cart be it - bovine, equine, donkeys etc and anything in between - And we got from point A to point B safely - just saying.


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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2018, 11:55:25 PM »
Yeah, "BAND" them you ignorant asshole!

wow.. after ripping you for the mistake of the power of the usta this goof  comes back with possibly
the dumbest most embarrassing put down ive seen in a long time....

american BANDstand with doug larson getting up.
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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2018, 11:40:27 AM »
the rule will be passed soon as it is on the agenda. must have both hands in each line and can only whip like that. no more reaching back and hitting. that's in nj

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Re: BAN THE WHIP
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2018, 01:46:19 PM »
No need for a whip at all. Just another stupid harness racing practice. I've broken and trained many without a whip. Horses respond to sound and line movement just as easy. The people who claim a whip is necessary never tried to go without one, as that is how they were taught. These are the same trainers who back in the day swore you needed knee boot suspenders and now they are extinct and the sun came up the next day.

Great post, I'm with you 100%.

 

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