NICK SURICK THREAD

[Pacingqueen]

PETA is well aware of the accusations against Surick and are actively awaiting end to the Federal side of things before any State charges of Animal Cruelty can be brought.

Trust me, many individuals want to see justice for the horses killed.

And his biggest fear should be what unknown will come from behind his back.

Karma is the ultimate justice.

Peta knows nothing. Already a known fact, there was never any dead horses. After extensive interviews of all employees that were current, past, and all other associated with Surrick, stories matched up long and far that no horses were ever killed. All horses trained at one time by Surrick were verified sold, homed, claimed, still owner, ect, none were missing. My friend Kim worked for him, everyone was interviewed.

[Pacingqueen]

A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

Already known that the vet can STILL practice today, just not on race horses for 2 years then she can go back to racing. Basically a 2 year suspension from race horses only.

[Pacingqueen]

Pacingqueen you know shit but you talk a lot just like a Chatty Kathy doll, somebody needs to cut you're cord.

CHATTY FACTS. You could not find one untrue thing I have ever spoke. Facts are facts.

[2beblunt]

A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

Correct. As soon as you walk into prison and get assisgned to a unit someone will ask to see your paperwork. The paperwork will show a 5k departure which is a reduction in sentence for either cooperating or illness. Once someone sees this on your paperwork you will not be allowed in that unit. Most likely you will be thrown in a cell and have the shit beat out of you as the CO turns his head. The person that gives the beting is usually same color as the rate or same ethnic background. they will have a lockdown. The rat will be taken out of general population, and the guy who gave him the beating will go to the "hole" or SHU- Segregated Housing Unit

[The Exporter]

What movie is that from?

[The Exporter]

Anyone convicted of the crimes in these cases would be classified to a camp or low security facility. Most of the inmates at these places are of the same cloth, rats or guys with long bids who have behaved well and earned the camp in their last years of incrassation.
 Yes, everyone will know your deal before you arrive as, inmate population work in intake .
 These places don't have cells. They are dormitory settings. Yes, Chris Oaks will be labeled a rat and shunned by most. But, remember, all these guys are criminals and they love a story like his; doping horses and cashing tickets.
 So no, there will be no beatdowns, no blanket parties... But there may be that angry gambler looking for revenge in the shower.

[2beblunt]

Anyone convicted of the crimes in these cases would be classified to a camp or low security facility. Most of the inmates at these places are of the same cloth, rats or guys with long bids who have behaved well and earned the camp in their last years of incrassation.
 Yes, everyone will know your deal before you arrive as, inmate population work in intake .
 These places don't have cells. They are dormitory settings. Yes, Chris Oaks will be labeled a rat and shunned by most. But, remember, all these guys are criminals and they love a story like his; doping horses and cashing tickets.
 So no, there will be no beatdowns, no blanket parties... But there may be that angry gambler looking for revenge in the shower.

It all depends where they put you based on your crime. It goes probation,house arrest,camp,low,medium,high, pen
However, even though this is his first offense, and not a bad one, they also factor in the money factor. How much he robbed. The higher the amount the more serious placement could begin. So, he could be at a camp or a low like Ft Dix but he could go to a medium which does not have the dormatory setting.

[The Exporter]

That pretty much sums up what I said. Navarro will probably need to go behind a wall, due to his flight risk. The others anywhere from halfway house to a camp or level 1.

[Calhoun]

Lots of good infotmation on this thread. 

Most horsemen can't train a rat to eat cheese.

However, y'all dripping legit knowledge of the criminal justice system.

Except Liceman.  That guy don't know shit about nothing.  Except Jello.  He know Jello.

[2beblunt]

Lots of good infotmation on this thread. 

Most horsemen can't train a rat to eat cheese.

However, y'all dripping legit knowledge of the criminal justice system.

Except Liceman.  That guy don't know shit about nothing.  Except Jello.  He know Jello.

It helps to be a convicted felon lol

[COUNSELOR]

PLEASE RECALL THAT NO ONE INVOLVED IN THE CASE CAN BE HOUSED AT THE SAME FACILITY.   SO IF THESE FOLKS ARE ALL FROM ERSEY OR NEW YORK OR PA.---THEY CANNOT GO TO THE SAME FACILITY.  FURTHER, A JUDGE WILL RECOMMEND TO PLACE THESE FOLKS AT A FACILITY CLOSEST TO THEIR FAMILIES AND IT NOW MUST BE WITHIN 500 MILES OF THEIR HOME AS REQUIRED BY THE FIRST STEP ACT THAT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ON DECEMBER 30, 2018.   

IN FACT THIS LAW MAY IN FACT SAVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS JAIL TIME IF THIS IS THEIR FIRST CONVICTION.   IT ALSO STATES VERY CLEARLY THAT LOW AND CAMPERS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR HOME CONFINEMENT.  THE ISSUE SO FAR WITH THE FIRST STEP ACT AS IT HAS BE SLOW TO BE IMPLEMENTED DUE TO THE COVID ISSUES.

TIME WILL TELL.

[NJ The best]

Rick Pantano set up sandals with the landscaping and paver business  . Nicks woman just got augmented again and looks super . How the hell he hangs on to her will be a miracle.