Norman was a real horseman, had some very good owners, good backing, and played the game at the top levels. Jeff hung around the barn early on, learned what he wanted to, and never really had the desire to become a true, all-around horseman. He didn't have to. His family did well. His mother had a successful business and Norman actually did well for himself, saved, put money away, etc. Jeff is a part-timer, 5% trainer, and maybe the same as a driver. He's safe, competent, and won't hurt anyone out there.