Jamieson out Zeron in on Captains Quarters. How much of a difference. ?

[rainman2]

30 to 40 pounds won't make a difference but Scotty is just a much better driver and he knows how to rate a mile.. He is also a better driver on smaller tracks where Jody has next to no experience on them

I'm still from the old school that it doesn't matter, but it does.  My trainer and others attest to this!  Is it right or wrong?  Who knows?  We can agree to disagree about this in a 'constructive' manner.

[Parked]

Much of the driver weight differences affecting a horse depends on the horse. 20, 30 or 40 lbs will slow down a med to smallish filly where a big, strong horse will just roll on. 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Jody has "lost a step or two" as far as the level he's driving and his consistency. Regardless, when you are talking about the big dances, the grand circuit, etc.....Scotty is a regular, a top dog, and is one of the two or three go to drivers on the gc  today. He's getting multiple calls, his opportunities come from a lot of barns, and his business is focused on a few key barns and the best horses. Jody is not anywhere near that level. Not even close. He's levels below.

[JT]

Jody has "lost a step or two" as far as the level he's driving and his consistency. Regardless, when you are talking about the big dances, the grand circuit, etc.....Scotty is a regular, a top dog, and is one of the two or three go to drivers on the gc  today. He's getting multiple calls, his opportunities come from a lot of barns, and his business is focused on a few key barns and the best horses. Jody is not anywhere near that level. Not even close. He's levels below.

Totally agree

[Crash]

The weight of the driver in harness racing does affect the force required to pull the sulky. Here’s how:

### Force and Weight Relationship
1. **Total Weight**: The total weight being pulled by the horse includes the weight of the sulky and the driver. If the driver weighs more, the total weight increases, and thus more force is required to pull the sulky at a given speed.

2. **Force Calculation**: The force needed to move an object is given by the formula:
   \[
   F = ma
   \]
   where \( F \) is the force, \( m \) is the total mass (weight divided by the acceleration due to gravity), and \( a \) is the acceleration. A heavier driver increases \( m \), thereby increasing the force \( F \) needed to maintain or increase speed.

3. **Friction and Drag**: A heavier total load increases the friction between the sulky wheels and the track surface. Although the wheels are designed to minimize friction, it still plays a role. Additionally, a heavier driver can slightly alter the aerodynamics of the sulky, affecting drag forces.

### Practical Implications in Racing
1. **Speed**: An increase in force needed due to additional weight may lead to a slower overall speed. Horses have a maximum power output, and the heavier the load, the more of that power is needed to overcome the extra weight rather than contributing to speed.

2. **Acceleration and Maneuverability**: Heavier loads can reduce a horse’s ability to accelerate quickly or maneuver effectively during races, which can be critical in competitive situations.

3. **Regulations**: To ensure fairness, many harness racing organizations have weight restrictions or standardized equipment to minimize the impact of driver weight on race outcomes.

### Conclusion
The weight of the driver in harness racing significantly affects the force required to pull the sulky, influencing the horse’s performance in terms of speed, acceleration, and maneuverability.

[rainman2]

The weight of the driver in harness racing does affect the force required to pull the sulky. Here’s how:

### Force and Weight Relationship
1. **Total Weight**: The total weight being pulled by the horse includes the weight of the sulky and the driver. If the driver weighs more, the total weight increases, and thus more force is required to pull the sulky at a given speed.

2. **Force Calculation**: The force needed to move an object is given by the formula:
   \[
   F = ma
   \]
   where \( F \) is the force, \( m \) is the total mass (weight divided by the acceleration due to gravity), and \( a \) is the acceleration. A heavier driver increases \( m \), thereby increasing the force \( F \) needed to maintain or increase speed.

3. **Friction and Drag**: A heavier total load increases the friction between the sulky wheels and the track surface. Although the wheels are designed to minimize friction, it still plays a role. Additionally, a heavier driver can slightly alter the aerodynamics of the sulky, affecting drag forces.

### Practical Implications in Racing
1. **Speed**: An increase in force needed due to additional weight may lead to a slower overall speed. Horses have a maximum power output, and the heavier the load, the more of that power is needed to overcome the extra weight rather than contributing to speed.

2. **Acceleration and Maneuverability**: Heavier loads can reduce a horse’s ability to accelerate quickly or maneuver effectively during races, which can be critical in competitive situations.

3. **Regulations**: To ensure fairness, many harness racing organizations have weight restrictions or standardized equipment to minimize the impact of driver weight on race outcomes.

### Conclusion
The weight of the driver in harness racing significantly affects the force required to pull the sulky, influencing the horse’s performance in terms of speed, acceleration, and maneuverability.

Translation:  if Jody was 40 lbs lighter, his horses would go faster!!

Thank you for the physics lesson!!

I didn’t take physics in high school but I figured out how my bowling ball reacts on the lane when I release it.

[Sunmoon 1219]

Zeron has a tendency to give them a run or 2 before he races any of these top dogs he drives . When you see him go Wally case down the road first start on anything ? Dude has great hands just don’t use them  always

[oh canada]

Wouldn't matter if Pop Geers was in the bike he would never smell Legendary on his best day. Jody did a fine job with Herbie's horse.

[Crash]

We shall see here on Saturday. Great card.

[Sunmoon 1219]

Like I said Zeron sightseeing for 300k

[jupiter]

The horse showed it didn't matter. Some times it works some times it doesn't.

[Jazzman]

next will be a trainer change

[seen2much]

Captain Quarters didn't have any go. The driver means little if the horse has no pace.

[Meadow Ford]

The weight of the driver in harness racing does affect the force required to pull the sulky. Here’s how:

### Force and Weight Relationship
1. **Total Weight**: The total weight being pulled by the horse includes the weight of the sulky and the driver. If the driver weighs more, the total weight increases, and thus more force is required to pull the sulky at a given speed.

2. **Force Calculation**: The force needed to move an object is given by the formula:
   \[
   F = ma
   \]
   where \( F \) is the force, \( m \) is the total mass (weight divided by the acceleration due to gravity), and \( a \) is the acceleration. A heavier driver increases \( m \), thereby increasing the force \( F \) needed to maintain or increase speed.

3. **Friction and Drag**: A heavier total load increases the friction between the sulky wheels and the track surface. Although the wheels are designed to minimize friction, it still plays a role. Additionally, a heavier driver can slightly alter the aerodynamics of the sulky, affecting drag forces.

### Practical Implications in Racing
1. **Speed**: An increase in force needed due to additional weight may lead to a slower overall speed. Horses have a maximum power output, and the heavier the load, the more of that power is needed to overcome the extra weight rather than contributing to speed.

2. **Acceleration and Maneuverability**: Heavier loads can reduce a horse’s ability to accelerate quickly or maneuver effectively during races, which can be critical in competitive situations.

3. **Regulations**: To ensure fairness, many harness racing organizations have weight restrictions or standardized equipment to minimize the impact of driver weight on race outcomes.

### Conclusion
The weight of the driver in harness racing significantly affects the force required to pull the sulky, influencing the horse’s performance in terms of speed, acceleration, and maneuverability.

Good stats,but I think you are forgetting the effect of today's sulkies.
Todays drivers are sitting far back behind the wheels, and the shafts are hooked much higher. Stanley Dancer sat upright and nearly all his weight was on top of the wheels.

If you put Stanley Dancer on Nevele Pride's sulky, and hold the safts at the height of that day, let go of the shafts, and the shafts will go down with the wheels staying still.

If you put todays driver on todays sulky, and hold the shafts at today's height, let go of the shafts, and the shafts will go up(not down) with the wheels moving forward.

Think of a kid's teeter totter with a 100pound kid a one end and a 25 pound kid at the other.

I don't know how much, but I think sulky design throws of the "Force Calculations".

[Dingus]

Good stats,but I think you are forgetting the effect of today's sulkies.
Todays drivers are sitting far back behind the wheels, and the shafts are hooked much higher. Stanley Dancer sat upright and nearly all his weight was on top of the wheels.

If you put Stanley Dancer on Nevele Pride's sulky, and hold the safts at the height of that day, let go of the shafts, and the shafts will go down with the wheels staying still.

If you put todays driver on todays sulky, and hold the shafts at today's height, let go of the shafts, and the shafts will go up(not down) with the wheels moving forward.

Think of a kid's teeter totter with a 100pound kid a one end and a 25 pound kid at the other.

I don't know how much, but I think sulky design throws of the "Force Calculations".

Right, they cause lift.