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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2024, 06:29:26 PM »
Call Sign Merlin  ....   Understood, but buying a $30k share sounds like a better investment than buying a $30k yearling. 

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2024, 06:38:36 PM »
Ake's horses don't run enough to win $1 million dollars a year, and assuming he'll be a top trotter is another assumption.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2024, 07:42:04 PM »
All I know is he must have unlimited funds cause he sure pisses away a shit ton of cash.  But good for him if he can.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2024, 07:56:15 PM »
Ake's horses don't run enough to win $1 million dollars a year, and assuming he'll be a top trotter is another assumption.

While I agree with you that it's a pretty big leap to assume this horse is going to come forward (or even be fertile..is it possible they had tests on him prior to HBG sale?) but to be fair, Jiggy Jog earned over $1M last year (at 4) and was just short this year and would certainly have been over. He picks his spots appropriately.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2024, 08:56:49 PM »
just curious did this guy win the lotto? or inherit a big sum of money? i remember he use to only have a few horses. no they buy all high priced horses and yearlings. he idnt do very good back then. (like he never won) and with the cash they spend now they probably should do better. just my opinion.

He is a Real Estate coach and one of the best in USA, type his name on google and you will see it all

He told Heather Vitale he owns 160 horses.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2024, 10:17:57 PM »
They wait 60/90 days after last race to test for fertility. He wasn’t tested before Harrisburg. When AH gets outbid on a horse you definitely know Luther paid too much. For him to make 1mil next year he would have to be the best in the country by far and he’s not even the best in Ake’s stable.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2024, 11:26:22 PM »
Saying he has a good chance of making a million dollars next year isn't a good thing to say. Horse racing is a high risk business.

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2024, 08:11:44 AM »
I think he realizes he overpaid and is trying to recover some of his money. Or in Greg Luther's world trying to do a "Quick Flip".

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2024, 10:21:40 AM »
Real estate guys want to put as little into a deal as they possibly can while retaining as much ownership as they possibly can.  He has essentially structured this as a cash out refinance.  He acquired the property, made it look better, got it reappraised as a higher value and then recouped his initial investment.  If he sells 60 shares he owns half the horse with no money in.

I think this is a pretty interesting, unique, and smart business structure that is only really made possible by keeping him racing. 

I do think they picked the wrong jurisdiction which will limit his upside as a stallion.  There are too many stud options in Ohio and it is overbred with good but common mares.     

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2024, 10:47:31 AM »
Any trainer to take a horse off Ake is a big risk.

Beware if he doesn’t pan out to be the dominant older trotter he’s selling.


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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2024, 11:18:13 AM »
Any trainer to take a horse off Ake is a big risk.

Beware if he doesn’t pan out to be the dominant older trotter he’s selling.


Horse is staying in Ake’s barn.   tmbz1

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2024, 12:41:50 PM »
i like the horse overall , racing and pedigree
however not a fan overall of ohio
i believe tci is going there??
for the cost of a $10k breeding i would just keep my money in my pocket and if decide to bred in 2026 than fine

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Re: Greg Luther's Amazing Catch
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2024, 06:29:10 AM »
Hope it works out for Greg .Good luck.

 

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