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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2024, 08:47:17 AM »
3 ways to "beat the cheats" ie "Beards"

1) Ban the horse(s) same as the trainer

2) The horse(s) cannot be within 5 miles of its original stable

3) Forensic accounting for all trainers who accept horses from banned trainers


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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2024, 10:28:13 AM »
Banning the horse is the best and only way to prevent that particular horse.  Rest of the stable is tough to get around.  And don't really need a beard anyway, why not just go to another fucking cheat?

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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2024, 11:46:37 AM »
Banning the horse is the best and only way to prevent that particular horse.  Rest of the stable is tough to get around.  And don't really need a beard anyway, why not just go to another fucking cheat?

Yes its whats happening now and that is exactly why you need number 3---if one cheats horses all go to another trainer-then that trainer should be made by the Judges to bring ALL his financial records to them or the presiding state steward-and examined. Remember--a banned trainer is not allowed to make ANY income from horse racing while hes suspended. If he does-then hes in even bigger trouble. It will quickly stop "bearding"-hidden ownership/training/ breeding etc.

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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2024, 12:16:03 PM »
I think it's just a no-win situation.  Judges and commissions don't care enough to police it and will claim they aren't staffed for that.  But when it's obvious, such as old trainers colors and truck and trailer, throw the book at everyone involved.  But they barely take any action at all.  Had to be taking a ton of pressure to ban Oakes from bearding for Alexander at Yonkers.  They are as corrupt as it gets.

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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2024, 11:20:57 AM »
Where does it say a banned trainer can't make any money from horse racing?
From racing horses, sure.
But he can't lease his trailers, or rent out stalls if he owns a farm?

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Re: John Wagner
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2024, 12:10:49 PM »
dont hate the player hate the game.

 

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