My friend related that Dave has cleaned up his life and is a decent guy. He also mentioned that like a lot of young trainers they push the envelope in ways to improve a horse and like many, that results in the odd positive. But in a results driven game, and that's what it is now with the exorbitant costs nowadays, he gets results. Whether that's a winning strategy, pardon the pun, is another story as once they pass through his barn they usually go to zero. But I'm sure Pollack and company know the deal going in and they live with that risk.