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ferdinand the bull

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« on: February 10, 2025, 04:19:42 PM »
How widely has the bronchiodiolator carmoterol been used in standardbreds as a PED?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2025, 09:56:00 PM »
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2025, 08:30:54 PM »
I hope they start testing for this. Maybe New Yorks new fancy machine will pick it up. No T-bred positives yet on this either. Just the crazy quarter horse guys
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2025, 07:19:10 PM »
It was already picked up over Ohio last year, Rhodes Schillali Mcgunis ,
Those were the d-methamphetamine ones . Lad must not have been able to ID the Cereamort
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2025, 08:51:13 PM »
Quote from: White Rabbit on February 12, 2025, 07:19:10 PM
It was already picked up over Ohio last year, Rhodes Schillali Mcgunis ,
Those were the d-methamphetamine ones . Lad must not have been able to ID the Cereamort
But as long as there's grooms pissing in stalls they have their contamination out
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2025, 10:42:39 PM »
A better question is:

Who gets the most beneficial results from this?

Quarter horses?

Thoroughbreds?

Standardbreds?

IMO, how much faster can you make a quarter horse go?  Does it matter if the drugs are legal or illegal?  You miss the start when the gate opens, your race is over more times than not!
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2025, 06:57:54 PM »
All of the above. 1/4 horses are bred and trained to go short distances. Any extra air they can get helps. Besides the steroid effect of drugs like this and Clembutoral
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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2025, 10:08:32 AM »
Quote from: rainman2 on February 12, 2025, 10:42:39 PM
A better question is:

Who gets the most beneficial results from this?

Quarter horses?

Thoroughbreds?

Standardbreds?

IMO, how much faster can you make a quarter horse go?  Does it matter if the drugs are legal or illegal?  You miss the start when the gate opens, your race is over more times than not!

broncho-dilators such as Clenbuterol build muscle mass...and it adds lengths

Parx nailed trainer Ramon Preciado years ago and then his beard Penny Pearce using out of competition testing

they both received a 10 year suspension but Ramon will find a new beard if he hasn't already
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ferdinand the bull

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Re: Carmoterol
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2025, 01:26:41 PM »
Has any jurisdiction connected carmoterol to the methamphetamine positives?
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