Who’s best suited to clean this sport up?

[The Exporter]

makes sense but think of what your saying. Class 4 5000? And purse? Could be very expensive for a therapeutic medication. How about you lose your driving privelidges for running a stop sign? Or jail for speeding? DUI? Instant death? Yes it needs cleaned up but you are going overboard. What no one ever thinks about is the family's of the people with bs positives and or the grooms, blacksmith, feed and hay guys. When you penalize that severely there alot more people affected then just the trainer. Example when ny got LP. For BULL SHIT. More then just lou had their life turned upside down

So, if you hitch your wagon to a thief and that thief gets poped, you should have some severance package?

[HHTremor]

makes sense but think of what your saying. Class 4 5000? And purse? Could be very expensive for a therapeutic medication. How about you lose your driving privelidges for running a stop sign? Or jail for speeding? DUI? Instant death? Yes it needs cleaned up but you are going overboard. What no one ever thinks about is the family's of the people with bs positives and or the grooms, blacksmith, feed and hay guys. When you penalize that severely there alot more people affected then just the trainer. Example when ny got LP. For BULL SHIT. More then just lou had their life turned upside down

LP was a witch hunt that should have never happened and to the best of knowledge has not happened since. I thought we were talking about harness racing not driving a car. Isn't loss of integrity affecting all of those people too? What about the hay and oats trainers grooms families etc??? All of this is hypothetical anyway. Until you get one governing body for all harness race tracks shit will continue to be the same old same old. If the fines were much higher with trainers, owners and vets all taking the hit don't you think a trainer and vet would be much more careful when administering any medication before the horse races?

[The Exporter]

This game of cat and mouse has been going on from the day the first piss cup was filled. Nothing has changed. And, perhaps it never will.

[Fair is fair]

LP was a witch hunt that should have never happened and to the best of knowledge has not happened since. I thought we were talking about harness racing not driving a car. Isn't loss of integrity affecting all of those people too? What about the hay and oats trainers grooms families etc??? All of this is hypothetical anyway. Until you get one governing body for all harness race tracks shit will continue to be the same old same old. If the fines were much higher with trainers, owners and vets all taking the hit don't you think a trainer and vet would be much more careful when administering any medication before the horse races?

The witch hunts still happen everyday. You mite not hear about it because it's on a smaller scale and the guys get out. I doubt the owner, trainer, groom numbers are increasing every year. I agree for major violations the penalty should be severe and also base it on trainer income. What good is finding a trainer who makes a over a million in purse money the same as some little stable that makes 2 or 300000?  In most cases the penalty doesn't fit the crime. Warning for cobalt? Fine and loss of purse for bute, banamine, methacarbomol, dex,  ect....

[tracks]

End the USTA !!!!

[Field_In_Motion]

Trump.
He will make harness racing great again.

[TW]

Jeff Gural.  Jut ask him.

[okdfool]

Back in the day, they always had secret FBI trainers, but i dont think they are out there anymore...

[JUICEJUNKIES]

https://horseauthority.co/trainer-lou-pena-banned-for-1700-equine-drug-violations/

yeah, some witch hunt you moron!

Where did he get the money to pay the $343,000 fine?

Did he pay the $343,000 fine or did that criminal Howard Taylor get him off on that?

First, Taylor wasnt his legal representative.   
Second, all of those charges were thrown out in their entirety.
The State of New York, even if Pena was guilty, botched everything.
There is not one single competant person currently, nor in the last two decades, employed or appointed to the New York State Gaming Commission nor it’s predecessor-New York State Racing and Wagering Board.

The thread is about “who could clean it up” and with this single historic case we can definitively determine the State of New York as incompetant and corript.   

http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/11-8-16/appellate-court-rules-favour-pena.html
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/4-10-17/another-legal-victory-pena.html

Backdoor rumors say Pena was offered a large 6 digit settlement for loss of income and the public smearing, the aforementioned regulator asserted. 

[PIGLAND]

First, Taylor wasnt his legal representative.   
Second, all of those charges were thrown out in their entirety.
The State of New York, even if Pena was guilty, botched everything.
There is not one single competant person currently, nor in the last two decades, employed or appointed to the New York State Gaming Commission nor it’s predecessor-New York State Racing and Wagering Board.

The thread is about “who could clean it up” and with this single historic case we can definitively determine the State of New York as incompetant and corript.   

http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/11-8-16/appellate-court-rules-favour-pena.html
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/4-10-17/another-legal-victory-pena.html

Backdoor rumors say Pena was offered a large 6 digit settlement for loss of income and the public smearing, the aforementioned regulator asserted. 

ty

[viking55]

The Orkin Man.