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Hoosier Park Pacing Derby and Ceaser's Trotting Classic
« on: September 25, 2020, 11:43:34 AM »
How dumb is it to run these races and not include Sectionline Bigry, Little Rocket Man, and Majestic Player A?
How can you run preps in which horses in Tonight's stakes are beaten by horses that are excluded?
Does that make any sense?
It's time to fix the eligibility requirements to have the best fields and let some of the best Indiana and Ohio horses in these races instead of outsiders getting in based on past earnings and former glory.

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Re: Hoosier Park Pacing Derby and Ceaser's Trotting Classic
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2020, 11:47:27 AM »
  this particular race is  based on lifetime earnings

wahts so hard you're either in or your not

top 10 get in

its specified when staking time comes

its a risk and pressure to make money for horses


some trainers just want participation trophies

rocket man is a little beast

buts its just one of those things

hes out..


some agree with system some dont



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