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dougie

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2023, 10:37:31 AM »
I was introduced to Andy Herzog by my friend Brad Sheiner (RIP) at the "Mighty M". He had a private box and people would follow him to the window. LOL! Andy's dad "Lefty", owned the Lefty's restaurant in Monticello. Best onion soup and burgers in town. Was always packed on the weekends. I saw Andy almost every night at the track. He was  a big gambler then. What has haapened to him? It's been over 30 years since i've seen him.

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2023, 12:13:31 PM »
If I recall correctly it was Andy who gave $$$$$ to Dennis Fawcett, Tom Merton and Danny Ricco. And as I recall a deal was reached because Andy said it was simply a loan, not an "envelope" to go dead with their horses.

Their punishment was to be tossed and not face criminal charges for those three. Tommy is back training and driving.

I saw Danny lissted to drive but there was a lat change a couple of weeks ago.

Again, this is based on my crappy memory

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2023, 12:34:35 PM »
I was introduced to Andy Herzog by my friend Brad Sheiner (RIP) at the "Mighty M". He had a private box and people would follow him to the window. LOL! Andy's dad "Lefty", owned the Lefty's restaurant in Monticello. Best onion soup and burgers in town. Was always packed on the weekends. I saw Andy almost every night at the track. He was  a big gambler then. What has haapened to him? It's been over 30 years since i've seen him.
Last time I saw Andy was 10 years ago, the last time I had horses racing at Monti. He had a box in the deserted grandstand with TVs for simulcasting and a SAM betting machine plus the usual entourage. He also had many horses racing at the time at different tracks with that questionable outfit from Fla. Cant think of the trainer's name right down but they were somewhat successful

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2023, 12:37:37 PM »
Langley or something like that, I think

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2023, 01:24:25 PM »
Langley or something like that, I think

Didn’t he use Tracey and Josh ?

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2023, 02:07:00 PM »
Yes  The Brainards    my brain aint clicking today   sucks getting old

Don and Tracy Brainard, right?

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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2023, 02:42:22 PM »
Yes  The Brainards    my brain aint clicking today   sucks getting old

Don and Tracy Brainard, right?

Don was her father. He might have been out of the picture. The stable was in Tracey’s name but Josh Mark’s ran the show. He could certainly light em up.

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Re: Pass the envelope, please
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2023, 02:57:19 PM »
Yeah, I knew who ya meant   I do remember a time when don was listed, then tracey    of course, not Josh

 

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