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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2023, 12:07:21 AM »
Just to clarify.  This thread is about drivers you don't like for whatever reason,  not if they were great drivers.  There are a lot of Hall of Fame drivers who won when they wanted to or more importantly DIDN'T win when they were supposed to. 

Some may have just been horrible human beings and there are a lot of them we could include like the French Canadian guy who's in the news for beating a horse that had to be put down because of it.
TYVM for reiterating Thorn.. Exactly where I was going with this...

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2023, 12:22:40 AM »
My least favorite
1-Dave Magee (management kiss ass)
2- Walter Paisley (way over rated)
3- Gary Mills (thief in the night)
4- Joe Anderson (no talent good juice)
5- Steve Pletcher (horrible miserable prick)

I have plenty more
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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2023, 12:24:12 AM »
Rene Poulin was Sandy Goldfarb's man, a magician with a tube and go-juice
Not only Sandy - that's for sure.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2023, 12:30:07 AM »
Gotcha Fug. Sorry about that. I didn’t know that was what you were looking for. Not knowing these drivers the way you trainers did I must step out as a participant but will enjoy the comments from all that know these guys first hand.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2023, 12:37:16 AM »
Please don't apologize theo.. We are friends and I love the history you impart on here. Of course you can participate. As an owner and observer you must have formed opinions, so please share them!

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2023, 01:21:24 AM »
Well I only know what I saw in the paddocks so here we go:

At Freehold, Liberty Bell, Brandywine I thought Harold Kelly was great. Herve was a quick how are you and Joe Schwind seemed aloof and a bit suspicious to me. I know Joe would occasionally stiff us by getting boxed at Freehold when he could have easily gotten out. He would come back like it was just another day at the office. But to be fair when he did good he looked awfully good.

At the Meadowlands in the 2003-2008 area my least favorite by far was Jim Morrill. I mention those years because back then the rumors were flying that he had a gambling problem and who knows what else. If he drove one of ours and won he was all smiles or before some races he would say see you in the winners circle. But if a horse had a bad night, tied up, whatever it wasn’t unusual for him to tell our trainer to never put his name down on that horse again. A very erratic personality back then. The very good guys to me were Ron Pierce, Mike Lachance and especially Brian Sears.

At Pompano Park I never knew what to make of the now retired Andy Santeramo. He seemed ok but I saw him more often at the bar and windows than before a race. I was told he was once a pretty good driver on the YR/RR circuit.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2023, 01:31:08 AM »
Brian Sears is the best one out there.  Always a professional.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2023, 01:58:12 AM »
Brian Sears is the best one out there.  Always a professional.
That was a good one. Made for a nice laugh right before bed time.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2023, 01:43:52 PM »
Eric Ledford
Tony Morgan
Jason Bartlett
Greg Grismore
Brent Holland


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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2023, 01:57:26 PM »
Tony Morgan
Semen Allard
Rick Zeron
Jim Morril
Mike NoCahance. Not sure what it was about him but if I bet him he never won. If I left him off the ticket he would win

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2023, 02:54:07 PM »
Tony Morgan
Semen Allard
Rick Zeron
Jim Morril
Mike NoCahance. Not sure what it was about him but if I bet him he never won. If I left him off the ticket he would win
When it comes to Lachance you just didnt know about the red whip up thing.

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Re: Now the flip side...
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2023, 03:21:04 PM »
I see the son of the despicable Ledford has made the list. I will assume Eric has been out of the game in recent years?

 

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