I think Huntsville is so extraordinary that he is making real good sires look average. I still think American Ideal is damn good and probably underrated.
I will take your word for it. I am not as up to date on the pacing sires as trotters, and not super in tune with NY in general. I've seen good Huntsvilles outside of NY; good American Ideal fillies outside of NY; and not much else from a pacing perspective. There is so much $$ in NY though, you don't need to leave the state to do well so I am sure there are some real killers that never reach the other states because there's no need.
