Here’s hoping Mr. Gural will also start banning owners

[Balmoral buzz]

Well he is doing a good job and off to a great start with the juicing trainers. Now if horseplop can only get Mr  Gural to start banning the cheating owners that will be a big help toward cleaning up the sport. He can start with the entire state of Florida with the money owners who give the trainers to buy the drugs. Get rid of the big money scumbag owners and trainers can’t afford this shit on their own.

[ferdinand the bull]

Donald Macrae publicly celebrates 100 wins on the year listing his trainers on facebook a collection of good hard working horse people right there

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Well he is doing a good job and off to a great start with the juicing trainers. Now if horseplop can only get Mr  Gural to start banning the cheating owners that will be a big help toward cleaning up the sport. He can start with the entire state of Florida with the money owners who give the trainers to buy the drugs. Get rid of the big money scumbag owners and trainers can’t afford this shit on their own.

Good post 

[Parked]

Gural has devoted a lot of time and money into cleaning things up.  Can’t help but to believe he has told his trainers if they are dirty they are gone.  As I understand it, if a partnership has an owner that is on the list the horse is out until after he is off as owner.   That will require some background checking but will be effective. 
He won’t give up until they close his eyes.   

[Par Four]

Donald Macrae publicly celebrates 100 wins on the year listing his trainers on facebook a collection of good hard working horse people right there

He is very close to Allard

[Balmoral buzz]

Gural has devoted a lot of time and money into cleaning things up.  Can’t help but to believe he has told his trainers if they are dirty they are gone.  As I understand it, if a partnership has an owner that is on the list the horse is out until after he is off as owner.   That will require some background checking but will be effective. 
He won’t give up until they close his eyes.

I give Gural credit. He’s trying to do stuff that nobody else will. I really hope he expands his list to start nabbing dirty owners with deep pockets who fund these drug cartels because again, the average trainer can not afford the exotic EPO without the money of the owners.

[ferdinand the bull]

He is very close to Allard

Makes sense , Daquet and Rhodes are two of his trainers

[Brown jug]

hope you are right larry
 but that is a big rabbit hole to go down
would need some iron clad proof( wire taps, funds exchanged etc )

[boscoman]

             Interesting that owners that sponsor races or give Gural money seem to get a pass.   Weren’t the Crawford’s involved with Navarro and Surick ?     Gural like everyone else , give him money and he’ll look the other way. 

[Generation XYZ]

             Interesting that owners that sponsor races or give Gural money seem to get a pass.   Weren’t the Crawford’s involved with Navarro and Surick ?     Gural like everyone else , give him money and he’ll look the other way.

And Chris Oaks and Jason Servus....

[LAW AND ORDER]

I WOULD LOVE TO START SEEING THESE BIG OWNERS WHO ARE PUTTING UP ALL OF THYE MONEY FOR THE DRUGS GET THE SAME TREATMENT AS THE JUICING TRAINERS. ITS NOT HARD TO DO EITHER. JUST GO BACK IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO AND SEE WHO ALL OF THE SCUMMY OWNERS WERE EMPLOYING TO TRAIN THEIR HORSES. THEN LOOK AND SEE IF THE TRAINER EVERY RECEIVED A POSITIVE TEST AND IF SO AND THEY MADE A SWITCH, SEE WHO THEIR NEW TRAINER OF RECORD IS/WAS? ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CONNECT THE DOTS AND WATCH THINGS UNFOLD. GURAL IS IN A GREAT POSITION TO JUST REFUSE CERTAIN OWNERS ENTRIES AND BAN THEM FROM HIS PROPERTY JUST LIKE HE DID WITH THIS LATEST GROUP OF GUYS. I THINK IF GURAL STICKS TO HIS GUNS, YOU WILL SEE ALL TRACKS FOLLOW IN THAT DIRECTION. I KNOW GURAL AND JASON READ HORSEPLOP EVERYDAY SO PLEASE TRY DOING THIS AND NABBING THE OWNERS TOO.   

[Generation XYZ]

I WOULD LOVE TO START SEEING THESE BIG OWNERS WHO ARE PUTTING UP ALL OF THYE MONEY FOR THE DRUGS GET THE SAME TREATMENT AS THE JUICING TRAINERS. ITS NOT HARD TO DO EITHER. JUST GO BACK IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO AND SEE WHO ALL OF THE SCUMMY OWNERS WERE EMPLOYING TO TRAIN THEIR HORSES. THEN LOOK AND SEE IF THE TRAINER EVERY RECEIVED A POSITIVE TEST AND IF SO AND THEY MADE A SWITCH, SEE WHO THEIR NEW TRAINER OF RECORD IS/WAS? ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CONNECT THE DOTS AND WATCH THINGS UNFOLD. GURAL IS IN A GREAT POSITION TO JUST REFUSE CERTAIN OWNERS ENTRIES AND BAN THEM FROM HIS PROPERTY JUST LIKE HE DID WITH THIS LATEST GROUP OF GUYS. I THINK IF GURAL STICKS TO HIS GUNS, YOU WILL SEE ALL TRACKS FOLLOW IN THAT DIRECTION. I KNOW GURAL AND JASON READ HORSEPLOP EVERYDAY SO PLEASE TRY DOING THIS AND NABBING THE OWNERS TOO.   

Well spoken. So that said. You have the CRAWFORDS who sponsor events at the BIG M, who cleary moved standardbreds from other trainers to Chris Oakes and Nick Surick, and on the flip side their Thoroughbreds were moved to Navarro and Jason Servus.  This isnt a huge red flag to the Gural ideals???

[Parked]

I understand there is a long list. If they go far enough owners will start to show up.  The list will run out of trainers before it will run out of owners.
The current list of people who bought specific drugs is good as most of the drugs were undetectable.  The dopers dodged the tests but having trouble doing the same for purchasing.. 
Keep the process rolling Gural.  You have accomplished more than anyone thought you could. 👍👍👍👍

[toothman]

its not that hard to disallow trainers the privileges of the grounds. now most tracks have no grounds. so this has been converted to race secretary not accepting a trainers entries.
Can a track do it with owners without opening themselves up to legal battles?

[LAW AND ORDER]

its not that hard to disallow trainers the privileges of the grounds. now most tracks have no grounds. so this has been converted to race secretary not accepting a trainers entries.
Can a track do it with owners without opening themselves up to legal battles?

I WOULD THINK THEY CAN REFUSE ENTRIES FROM A TRAINER OR OWNER WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION GIVEN. ITS THEIR RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE, NOT JUST TRAINERS! THINK ABOUT THAT. SOME TRAINERS ARE OWNERS TOO SO GURAL HAS GONE THE DISTANCE AND BANNED SOME OF BIG NAME TRAINERS SO LETS GET THE OWNERS WHO KEEP ENABLING THE TRAINERS AND WERE ON OUR WAY!!!