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rainman2

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How bad is----
« on: June 13, 2024, 04:45:46 AM »
Hoosier Park racing?

What a Wenesday night card! 

2 maiden claiming races
2 n/w of 2 lifetime claiming races
1 5k-6.5k claiming race

Thursday is only marginally better!

1- maiden claiming race
1- n/w of 2 lifetime claiming race
1- n/w 1250/L4-- they have this class at Vernon Downs too!

The worst part about this is that the maiden claimers and n/w of 2 claimers are overvalued to begin with!

And people here on horseplop complain about the Meadowlands and the product they put on the track!

Look at the driving colony as hoosier compared to the meadowlands!

How much lower is the purse money in 2024 compared to last few years?

FYI, Pocono and Harrah's Philadelphia are in the same boat as Hoosier!

FYI, Yonkers in on the opposite end of the spectrum!  Look at their purse structure!

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Re: How bad is----
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2024, 06:30:13 AM »
Difference is, nobody is calling Hoosier The 'MECCA' of harness racing and necessary for it to exist.
Hoosier also have more than 'TWO' cards to fill. Having said that, I gotta agree they're pretty slim too. ;D

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Re: How bad is----
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2024, 09:05:02 AM »
On Tuesday, Larry Rolla had a Hoosier Park based trainer on his podcast. The guest was explaining how he and his fellow horsemen are disadvantaged every day, racing at Hoosier. He said one of the greatest wrongs in harness racing today is the racing commissions and their employees.
He also complained about medication rules and how they are cruel to the horses. 72 hours out from any medications, 5 hour's in the paddock for lasix. No vet is allowed to treat a horse after racing until the following day. Vets must administer all medications and log every date and time . On and On how the current rules of medication and behavior is killing racing.
 The expert guest trainer was, Scott Nance. Scott said only the outfits that were stabled on the grounds like his and 400 head of other trainers were subjected to such restrictions. Restrictions the make it so difficult to be successful. The others are ship-ins. They take care of business as usual, away from the track.
 Scott also mentioned that all these restriction on treating and medication were not a worry for guys who turn their horses out between starts.
Scott has started 11 races at Hoosier Park, this year. No wins and about $1,500 in earning for the year.
I watch Larry's podcast every week. I find it entertaining. I have been around long enough to know many of the characters and events Larry speaks of. He has some shady characters on the show. Mob guys, admitted murderers, race fixers, huge drug dealers and many others are welcome on Larry and Friends. But Scott Nance brought nothing and of all the others may have cast the darkest shadow of how dead harness racing is.

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Re: How bad is----
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2024, 12:45:54 PM »
Did Scott mention his best years training horses he was using elephant juice??

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Re: How bad is----
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2024, 02:29:19 PM »
Forgetting Mr. Rolla, what do people expect from Hoosier? If the better horses don’t exist do you expect the track to card Invitationals? I mean even the Meadowlands has trouble carding higher quality races. Yonkers probably cards the best overall quality of horses but their racing is monotonous to say the least. The industry just has too many issues.

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2024, 02:41:43 PM »
Did Scott mention his best years training horses he was using elephant juice??

Another “favorite subject” of PIGLAND and his BFF!

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Re: How bad is----
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2024, 03:48:25 PM »
its a shame they couldnt hit with a trot sire after swan for all

 

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