Ontario Hay Cubes

[Brown jug]

question for you agent q
 the twenty guys you speak of , did they get out of the business or move their horse money elsewhere and if so where

[AgentQ]

question for you agent q
 the twenty guys you speak of , did they get out of the business or move their horse money elsewhere and if so where

They just sold off their remaining stock. One moved his last two to Yonkers.
Lasix 70 a start
Stall Rent 400 month
training 60 a day
blacksmith 150 per
Shipping 75-200 depending on who has your horse
75 paddock
and then it gets fun, all the while most likely racing for 12-18K purse.
take one to a vet --good luck getting out of there under 500 for a little imagining and a blood
No one in their right mind is breeding a mare anymore. All the guys that used to own or breed don't bet a single dime on Ontario tracks, maybe the odd day like Industry day or NA Cup night. You understand how much money that amounts to?
Brad Grant is a good friend of mine and he's selling everything basically. What more do you need to know? They can't increase their handle and the horse supply has plummetted to all time lows.

[rainman2]

They just sold off their remaining stock. One moved his last two to Yonkers.
Lasix 70 a start
Stall Rent 400 month
training 60 a day
blacksmith 150 per
Shipping 75-200 depending on who has your horse
75 paddock
and then it gets fun, all the while most likely racing for 12-18K purse.
take one to a vet --good luck getting out of there under 500 for a little imagining and a blood
No one in their right mind is breeding a mare anymore. All the guys that used to own or breed don't bet a single dime on Ontario tracks, maybe the odd day like Industry day or NA Cup night. You understand how much money that amounts to?
Brad Grant is a good friend of mine and he's selling everything basically. What more do you need to know? They can't increase their handle and the horse supply has plummetted to all time lows.

60/day?

American dollars or Canadian dollars?

[Brown jug]

thanks q
 that's what i thought, as tough as Ontario is the USA is even worse,
the rates are high and the shipping and tolls are crazy, if you have a decent one racing at Yonkers  and can avoid alexander and engblom you might have a shot
also with currency rates if a Canadian can sell a horse for decent USA cash they will do it , if you get $50k USA for a horse that's $70 k Canadian ,pretty much net
very few horses in Ontario can come close to that

[rainman2]

thanks q
 that's what i thought, as tough as Ontario is the USA is even worse,
the rates are high and the shipping and tolls are crazy, if you have a decent one racing at Yonkers  and can avoid alexander and engblom you might have a shot
also with currency rates if a Canadian can sell a horse for decent USA cash they will do it , if you get $50k USA for a horse that's $70 k Canadian ,pretty much net
very few horses in Ontario can come close to that

Rumor has it that if you own with a “big name” Canadian trainer you could very well have a horse make 90k just to ‘break even’.

[AgentQ]

60/day?

American dollars or Canadian dollars?

they're training in canada racing for canadian money, so obviously it's 60 canadian. I was a partner of a couple that we sent up there and I can tell you first hand that unless you're racing a stakes horse, 80% of horses cannot pay their way. That's an alarming statistic yet my partner and friend informs me that they refuse to discount their rates. He has finally seen the light and will not buy another Ontario sired horse nor send one up there to race in overnights.