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« Reply #420 on: December 29, 2016, 12:22:00 AM »
Yes HAROLD

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« Reply #421 on: December 29, 2016, 12:28:10 AM »
Years ago I was stabled with a young trainer I like very much and he had a big gorgeous 3 year old filly he was racing in cheap claimers.  He bought her very cheap about $1500 to breed the following season.  He told me that she had a 2 year old full brother he saw in training at a farm track who looked like he might be a major horse and he took a shot buying the full sister just in case he turned out to be something. In the meantime he raced her and she was supporting herself and actually earning a few bucks here and there.   The full brother actually came around and was a monster horse, very famous, so he threw her into the sale with $4,000 claiming lines on her card and she brought $37,000.  I always admired him for spotting an opportunity like that.  For the most part, the whole full brother and sister thing is not a good idea.  The filly he sold for $37,000 was a complete dud as a broodmare but her first foal went for big bucks.  

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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #422 on: December 29, 2016, 05:03:40 AM »
Bill Haughton used to say about the full brother debate, have you ever seen Jack Dempsey's brother box? Bill was sharp.

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« Reply #423 on: December 29, 2016, 07:12:45 AM »
I knew a guy back in the day with some partners who bought a full brother to Alysheba named Titanic for 100 thousand, what a waste of money that was

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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #424 on: December 29, 2016, 08:12:49 AM »
No one is beeeding to 7k pacing mates

You are 100% wrong on this.  Claiming races, even cheap ones, are great places to grab a mare for breeding.  Sometimes you see one with breeding and back class dropping even lower than $7,000.  I would rather have a well bred mare who raced tough and had a career than a blue blood who never hit the track.   Three things you look for when you shop for a broodmare in the claiming races.  #1  SIZE.   If they have size and bulk, you're on the right track.  #2  Back class.  Even a little.  You have to remember that most fillies do not make it to the races.  If you see a mare in $5,000 claiming and she was once in $25k claiming, and she has earned, you're on the right track.   #3 Good sires top and bottom.  They don't have to be the top sires, but they should be reliable stallions.  The sire of the dam is actually a little more important than the sire.     Let me tell you, there are a of of cheap claiming mares out there who could have great careers as breeding stock.   I would not hesitate to breed a big mare by Cams Cardshark out of a Big Towner dam if she meets my #1 #2 ans #3 criteria.  All this 3x4 and 4x4 and cross matching and stallion selection tables are pure bullshit.  What's the deal, 90% of the SELECT yearlings never make a nickel and somebody put a lot of effort in to that mating.  Like someone said, it's a crapshoot, but you can give yourself a shot if you know what to buy.  The real truth is that anyone who buys and breeds to get a horse needs to have their head examined. 

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« Reply #425 on: December 29, 2016, 10:02:22 AM »
You are 100% wrong on this.  Claiming races, even cheap ones, are great places to grab a mare for breeding.  Sometimes you see one with breeding and back class dropping even lower than $7,000.  I would rather have a well bred mare who raced tough and had a career than a blue blood who never hit the track.   Three things you look for when you shop for a broodmare in the claiming races.  #1  SIZE.   If they have size and bulk, you're on the right track.  #2  Back class.  Even a little.  You have to remember that most fillies do not make it to the races.  If you see a mare in $5,000 claiming and she was once in $25k claiming, and she has earned, you're on the right track.   #3 Good sires top and bottom.  They don't have to be the top sires, but they should be reliable stallions.  The sire of the dam is actually a little more important than the sire.     Let me tell you, there are a of of cheap claiming mares out there who could have great careers as breeding stock.   I would not hesitate to breed a big mare by Cams Cardshark out of a Big Towner dam if she meets my #1 #2 ans #3 criteria.  All this 3x4 and 4x4 and cross matching and stallion selection tables are pure bullshit.  What's the deal, 90% of the SELECT yearlings never make a nickel and somebody put a lot of effort in to that mating.  Like someone said, it's a crapshoot, but you can give yourself a shot if you know what to buy.  The real truth is that anyone who buys and breeds to get a horse needs to have their head examined.  

Good point . My friend bred Downbytheseaside.  Up until the mother never had anything great from first 3 foals I think although she made 350K on track and was Grand Circuit.  Sure enough this fall at Buffalo Downbytheseaside sister Francesca was in a 4 claimer.  He tried to claim her.  Multiple claims...others had the same idea and didn't get her.  I suppose the owner had no idea who she was related too. He had claimed him for 5500 in the Spring before Downbythe Seaside had raced  Sadly for my friend the broodmare of Sprig Hanover passed this year.  

Whoever had her sold the filly for profit to Hanover and her foals will bring good money I think.
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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #426 on: December 29, 2016, 10:27:42 AM »
IT MATTERS WHAT YIU ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THESES NMARES,,,,,,,,ARE YOU LOOKING FOR RACEWAY STOCK OR FUTURE STALLIONS

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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #427 on: April 23, 2017, 08:25:31 AM »
 Best...To...... Rose run Sydney

As she starts her Ohio three yr old stakes
Season today tmbz1
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« Reply #428 on: April 23, 2017, 03:18:43 PM »
She was exceptional today down the stretch.  Finished third

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« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2017, 03:45:06 PM »
 tmbz1

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« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2017, 03:58:54 PM »
She was exceptional today down the stretch.  Finished third


exceptional?
think you are overusing that word

she was good..

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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #431 on: April 23, 2017, 04:05:40 PM »
Nine hole against the boys and finished a second behind the winner.  She was a little better then good and maybe not exceptional.  A good tightener before the first sire race in 8 days.  I'm sure owners and trainer happy with outcome.

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« Reply #432 on: April 23, 2017, 04:08:30 PM »
Nine hole against the boys and finished a second behind the winner.  She was a little better then good and maybe not exceptional.  A good tightener before the first sire race in 8 days.  I'm sure owners and trainer happy with outcome.

Finished third but we were very happy how she did it. Thanks hf

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« Reply #433 on: April 23, 2017, 04:10:51 PM »
Finished third but we were very happy how she did it. Thanks hf
i would be very happy too with the effert
just thinking exceptional is a reach..
good luck with her this year

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Re: ROSE RUN SYDNEY...
« Reply #434 on: April 23, 2017, 04:11:11 PM »
Congrats.  You had a good driver today too.  

 

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