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Re: DO YOU BET WAIKIKI BEACH THIS WEEK?
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2018, 03:11:09 AM »
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX030218#MXM03021801  Heaven Rocks looks like a nice NZ horse.  He was 3rd in February to Lazarus in a $500,000 race.  His 1:51:4 at Ashburton last year for a straight 2 turn mile was nice. Again, I hope the price was not over $100,000 USD landed because it will take a lot to get that all back with the training fees on top of it.  Click PLAY to watch the race from February.  He moves his head around a lot.
horse was described as a pig and a cheat by previous trainer.
Think that says enough.

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« Reply #91 on: May 03, 2018, 08:48:18 AM »
Tough call, ross is all about ross.

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« Reply #92 on: May 03, 2018, 10:09:27 AM »
Croghan knows what he's doing alright!  And his owner sucks in partners to pay for his share.   73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

Which partners?

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« Reply #93 on: May 03, 2018, 11:54:02 AM »
20 February 2018
NZ HARNESS NEWS

Outstanding but erratic pacer Heaven Rocks is under offer to American interests and could be stateside by the end of the month.

Co-owner Phil Kennard confirmed to NZ Harness News this morning that the owners of the big gelding had accepted an offer and now it was a case of waiting for the buyers to complete their due diligence before he departed Australasian shores.

The decision came with mixed emotions for the group according to Kennard who said although he’s tested their patience on numerous occasions during his career, he’s also given them some incredible thrills.

“It’s been an interesting ride, that’s for sure,” Kennard said.

“He’s given us all some wonderful thrills, but going to watch him is a bit like going to a rodeo, you just don’t quite know what’s going to happen.”

Kennard said the horse was still in good health and capable of racing competitively in the high grades, but his manners have unfortunately meant he has always been chasing the good ones.

“If you go back through most of his runs, he’s had to chase because he’s come off the unruly or been slow away or done things wrong.

“He’s put up some phenomenal performances at times, to run a length and a half behind Vincent, who Mark thinks is the next big thing, in the Auckland Cup was huge.

“But eventually, that could break his heart and none of us want that to happen.”

Heaven Rocks is a multiple Group One winner, including last season’s Easter Cup and 4YO Emerald at the Harness Jewels.

He raced for Kennard, his wife Glenys, Phil and Margaret Creighton, Gavin Douglas and Kevin Riseley on 27 occasions, winning 12 and placings a further six times for close to $500,000 in earnings.

It’s never nice selling a horse who has given you such a great ride Kennard said, but at the end of the day the owners had made the decision based on what was best for the horse, Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen and for them in the long run.

“It would have been hard for him next season, off the unruly and chasing not only Lazarus, but probably Vincent too.

“The treatments he can get over in America will help him greatly and it will free up a lot of time around the stable because he requires attention above and beyond most other horses.”

It is likely, unfortunately, that Heaven Rocks’ last run as a Kiwi will go down as one of his worst, with his effort to finish last in the Allied Express Sprint on Saturday night at Menangle.

“With the virus that had been going through the barn we weren’t that confident, he hadn’t really handled the retention barn too well, either.

“But he was pretty ordinary by his standards.”

With just the minor details to be worked out by the interested party, Kennard expected that Heaven Rocks could be on his way to America within a fortnight........ .......so there you go. A head case that Croghan thinks he can solve here.  At what price to the owners? It's a HUGE gamble!
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« Reply #94 on: May 03, 2018, 12:10:46 PM »

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« Reply #95 on: May 03, 2018, 12:43:54 PM »
Just got off the phone with eric and Dana

They said to thank you all for you very very valuable insight and that they appreciate such knowledge coming from such successful people in the business

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« Reply #96 on: May 03, 2018, 01:39:00 PM »
Just got off the phone with eric and Dana

They said to thank you all for you very very valuable insight and that they appreciate such knowledge coming from such successful people in the business
You like looking stupid?

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« Reply #97 on: May 03, 2018, 02:35:25 PM »
Just got off the phone with eric and Dana

They said to thank you all for you very very valuable insight and that they appreciate such knowledge coming from such successful people in the business
At some point, deep pockets can get holes in them and lose money.  It's a risky gamble on a probably big cost to get a horse like that over here.  Good luck.  We shall see the return.  I find these NZ agents and trainers way overhype what they are selling, and many are unloading high priced horses with straight faces.  Some NZ horses do well here, but more don't, in terms of even breaking even.

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« Reply #98 on: May 03, 2018, 07:24:17 PM »
I have no insight to offer on these down under horses, but any news on Prairie Sweetheart?
PS: Gigi in to go Sat at Tioga
she was training back in FL

but i havent seen her since she shipped north

ill ask
she got hurt in roses are red last year

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« Reply #99 on: May 04, 2018, 11:39:23 PM »
Where’s the update?

I’m waiting for you giys

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« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2018, 11:51:08 PM »
Another poor effort in 1:55:0. 

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« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2018, 11:29:54 AM »
On a brighter note Heaven Rocks A looked a little rank today but his qualifier was impressive. He came from eighth first over finishing second in hand and paced in 1:51.1 last quarter in 26.3.

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« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2018, 11:40:38 AM »
On a brighter note Heaven Rocks A looked a little rank today but his qualifier was impressive. He came from eighth first over finishing second in hand and paced in 1:51.1 last quarter in 26.3.






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« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2018, 11:09:37 PM »
The surf is up!! Waikiki Beach A finally makes it back to the winners circle in 1:51.1. He still has a way to go to compete with the top horses but made a step in the right direction tonite.  tmbz1

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« Reply #104 on: May 13, 2018, 12:20:53 AM »
VERY UNIMPRESSIVE,,,,IMO

 

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