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Vernon oddsmakers??
« on: July 10, 2018, 12:44:20 PM »
Wtf are these ML odds in the fourth race at Vernon on Thursday!?

Looking at this race, I think the best horse is clearly the 2, Special Kay Deo? Yet she is the biggest longshot at 10-1??

She's coming off a dominant Excelsior win at Yonkers in 1:54.2.  The horse that finished dead last in that race is back in this race at Vernon, 7 KJ's Bekah.  Yet she's 5-1?   And in between then and now, she's thrown in another garbage race at Goshen with a 31.1 final quarter.   ngc3 ngc3

Also, the 3 Center of Hope is 8-1? Wtf? Literally the two best horses in the race are the two biggest longshots  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3  Who is the dumbfuck making these odds


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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 01:13:17 PM »
Wtf are these ML odds in the fourth race at Vernon on Thursday!?

Looking at this race, I think the best horse is clearly the 2, Special Kay Deo? Yet she is the biggest longshot at 10-1??

She's coming off a dominant Excelsior win at Yonkers in 1:54.2.  The horse that finished dead last in that race is back in this race at Vernon, 7 KJ's Bekah.  Yet she's 5-1?   And in between then and now, she's thrown in another garbage race at Goshen with a 31.1 final quarter.   ngc3 ngc3

Also, the 3 Center of Hope is 8-1? Wtf? Literally the two best horses in the race are the two biggest longshots  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3  Who is the dumbfuck making these odds



You shouldnt even acknowledge a morning line.
It is an opinion of someone or something else (humans and in some places computers).

Formulate your own opinion.
Rationalize betting patterns based upon your own knowledge.
Set your price to accept.
Wager or not.

The morning line shouldn't be a gambling tool in any regard.

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 02:19:12 PM »
You shouldnt even acknowledge a morning line.
It is an opinion of someone or something else (humans and in some places computers).

Formulate your own opinion.
Rationalize betting patterns based upon your own knowledge.
Set your price to accept.
Wager or not.

The morning line shouldn't be a gambling tool in any regard.

Some sound reasoning here...AND M/L IS BETTING FOR DUMMIES

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 02:44:34 PM »
i use the morning line

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 03:22:40 PM »
i use the morning line
you ARE the morning line  tmbz1

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2018, 04:00:00 PM »
you ARE the morning line  tmbz1

YOU ARE A LOAD

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2018, 08:39:55 PM »
Go figure but look who is training the horse, Chris Oakes once again such a joke!  Want to check a good one go back and watch Split the House at Pocono downs who finished dead, dead last by 10 lengths and could have moved up the rail and just sat. Big stake race the following week off at 14 to 1, bingo and Chris standing in the winners circle waving at the camera. An absolute joke but they keep leeting him do his thing.  Wonder now why I am completely gone?

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2018, 10:46:33 PM »
Sorry Charlie

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 01:24:22 PM »
I set my own morning line after warmups & runners coming out of paddock.

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 04:24:27 PM »
I set my own morning line after warmups & runners coming out of paddock.
Can you give an example of an 8 horse field?

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 06:23:24 PM »
I have heard that the morning line trackman is often a gambler and purposely tries to lead bettors away from the horses he wants to bet! Vernon's sister track Tioga also has some curious lines!

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 06:26:40 PM »
I have heard that the morning line trackman is often a gambler and purposely tries to lead bettors away from the horses he wants to bet! Vernon's sister track Tioga also has some curious lines!
that's not true .the ml just isn't very good

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 07:17:45 PM »
Can you give an example of an 8 horse field?
Not going thru whole field 1 is 15-1 morning line lousy warmup odds mean nothing automatic toss.2 5-1 warmup is super so he is 2-1 in my mind.3 9/2 warmup is good droping in class have to use.4 8-1 warmsup on one line so toss.5 7/2 warmup is. good,So not a big bettor $ 2 ex box 2 3 5 $3 2-3 2-5.BOX TRI for $1,$2 2-3-5,2-5-3.

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Re: Vernon oddsmakers??
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 09:01:47 PM »
Special Kay Deo, the horse I thought was the best in the race but 10-1 ML, went off at 12-1 and was a complete rat.

Center of Hope, the second best horse I thought but 8-1 ML, went off as the favorite at 3-5.

So 50% of my logic was correct. 

 

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