Fan Duel sportsbook @ the Meadowlands review...ouch!

[bigbettor]

If you want to play overs in baseball...be prepared to lay -140

several favorite sides in baseball today edged .30 beyond what's offered in Las Vegas

Arena football playoff game tonight...fav is -13; dog is +10.

 

somehwere in the back of a pork store or strip club in Bergen Co. the "boys" are laughing.

PASS !!!

[Mr. Fix-It]

hey mr. jeff gural ~ how can you let this raping of bettors go on in your building, right under your nose? Shameful!

If you want to play overs in baseball...be prepared to lay -140

several favorite sides in baseball today edged .30 beyond what's offered in Las Vegas

Arena football playoff game tonight...fav is -13; dog is +10.

 

somehwere in the back of a pork store or strip club in Bergen Co. the "boys" are laughing.

PASS !!!

[NJ Observer]

DAMN, I BELIEVE I'LL STICK WITH JIMMY AT THE CLUB IN LODI!!! BETTER ODDS!!!  TYPICAL GOOFRAL RIPOFF!!! MAYBE AT LEAST THE ODDS FOR CAMELS AND OSTRITCHES WILL BE FAIRER!!!

[Icyunvme]

If you want to play overs in baseball...be prepared to lay -140

several favorite sides in baseball today edged .30 beyond what's offered in Las Vegas

Arena football playoff game tonight...fav is -13; dog is +10.

 

somehwere in the back of a pork store or strip club in Bergen Co. the "boys" are laughing.

PASS !!!

That’s unreal! Nice 3 point middle for the house in the arena football.....who in the fuck would bet when you have way the worst of it

[flyflysolly]

You people are pathetic! I was just there now!  You can get 6.5/1 odds for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl.  Las Vegas is offering 5/1. How do I know? I bet it in Las Vegas.  You can get 50/1 on the Giants to win the Super Bowl.  Las Vegas is offering 28/1.  How do I know? My friend bet it in Las Vegas.  You can get 6/1 on the Yankees to win the World Series.  Las Vegas has them at 4/1.  Facts! If you bet futures bets, they are offering the BEST odds I have seen anywhere and they will top $4 million in handle tonight, which passes last year's total easily for the card!

[PIGLAND]

dan nants type take out

[MR.DALRAE]

I CANT BELIEVE THE ARENA SPREAD IF CORRECT,,,,,,,,THATS CRIMINAL

[Hambletonian46]

that arena football line had to be a teaser line of some kind.

no way anybody would bet a straight up line with a middle like that.

that being said, the baseball money lines had quite a spread, way more than offshore online and more than William Hill.

they also managed not to have five innings lines for baseball, or worse yet were not even sure if they had them, they said have the tellers check, which is rich. and they were offering first half time bets on the NBA summer league, which is probably pretty foolish to offer or bet at this point.

fact is, Paddy Power is new to this country and FanDuel is not a sports betting operation. They are way behind William Hill and even Delaware Park, which offered money, run and total lines forfull baseball games, money line and totals for 5 innings, and one or two sets of alternate run lines for the truly insane.

The building they are using is too small and claustrophobic, betting windows are too close together and the room is very noisy which makes communication with the tellers difficult. Food and service was good, and I did get a thank you and a handshake from Jeff Gural, which was nice. It was a VIP day, and he looked a little less like he had slept in his suit than usual

Funniest thing was that I was just messing around, my son was free and we just wanted to check it out, and was only making $500 worth of baseball bets and when I got to $300 or so the teller asked me if I was tracking my outlay. I am guessing that the local guys betting with Big Tony down the block were not as aggressive laying out the cash ahead of time as when betting on weekly credit.

You could tell it was really a soft open, but I will say they need a more open concept if they are truly looking for people to show up and stay. In football season it will be a madhouse, and I do recommend that folks not looking for mobile betting get those football wagers in during the week and not wait for game day, which is good general advice in any case.

I intend to be a mobile sports betting guy, and even though I am a New Yorker I live 15 minutes from the border. I will just drive over and park and bet. Never have looked for the group experience sports betting wise. I am wondering if that is what they may be thinking, that most of their customers will be betting on their phones, as both Monmouth and Meadowlands currently have rooms that are way too small. There is a reason why the Las Vegas Race and Sports Books are set up the way they are. Maximum visibility of games and betting lines, and less chance of a stabbing between two drunken jamokes who are rooting too loudly for competing teams. Not to mention pickpockets, etc.

Last time I was in Las Vegas, the Westgate, which is the premier sports betting room in Las Vegas, managed to make in person sports betting the worst experience possible with a line that wrapped back and forth for a mile. You wanted to make a second half college basketball bet, you were doomed unless you got in line at midway through he first half. But they did have a helpful placard every 20 feet or so with instructions on how to open a mobile betting account.

It is a brave new world now for sports betting, it will be interesting how this all sorts out this year.

[harnesstimes]

  If there is a way to cheat or gyp the customer as the house, Jeff Gural will do just that.  His motto, better you lose than me. He takes this daily up and down very personal.  You are not beating the house, you are beating HIM

[Powerful Patricks Ghost]

that arena football line had to be a teaser line of some kind.

Thanks for the review! If they are too small now, then something is wrong. Don't you think game day action for games at the Meadowlands complex are going to be huge for betting? Seems like they didn't play well.

[Pull the Pocket]

OCEANPORT - If the initial numbers on sports betting in New Jersey are any indication, Monmouth Park may have found the much-needed alternative revenue stream it needs to survive.

The state Division of Gaming Enforcement released the first revenue report relating to the new industry on Thursday, and the Monmouth Park Sports Book by William Hill generated a total handle of $8,176,212 for 17 days last month, with sports betting launching on June 14. 
According to the report, taxable gross revenue off sports wagering at Monmouth Park, which the state taxes at 8.5 percent, was $2,277,703, which equates to $193,605 in taxes. Not included in the report is the 1.25 percent that goes to county and municipal government.

The sports betting numbers do not reflect future bets on things like winning the Super Bowl or the World Cup, with those numbers not reported until after the event has been completed. For the state, including the Borgata and Ocean Resort casinos in Atlantic City, the total handle on future sports bets is $1,045,772.
Monmouth Park had a winning percentage on sports wagering of 11.8 percent, which equates to revenue of $967,403. The average for the state was 7.8 percent on a total handle of $15,363,847. The average winning percent on sports betting in Las Vegas is 5.6 percent

We are extremely pleased with our numbers," said Dennis Drazin, president and CEO of Darby Development LLC, which operates Monmouth Park. "We think they show there is a huge appetite for sports betting. To be generating these numbers early, and it’s not even football season yet, speaks enormously of the potential for when football season comes around. So we’re thrilled by the early numbers."

The true impact of sports betting will not be known until football season, with the National Football League and college football serving as the industry's driving force. Last year, football accounted for 36 percent of the total sports betting market in Las Vegas in 2017, according to the UNLV Center for Gaming Research

There is also a feeling that the overall numbers will grow as the market for sports betting in New Jersey matures, with online sports betting set to begin this month for the state's racetracks and casinos.

"While it's still early, we're obviously off to a great start," said Joe Asher, CEO of William Hill US. "We always knew there was a big appetite for legal sports betting during the years of litigation, and now it is being proven. We are proud to be creating new jobs in New Jersey and bringing excitement to our customers. We can't wait until football season."

Sport betting gets underway the Meadowlands Racetrack in East Rutherford when the FanDuel Sportsbook at Victory Sports Bar & Club opens to the public at 11 a.m. Saturday.

[Hambletonian46]

Thanks for the review! If they are too small now, then something is wrong. Don't you think game day action for games at the Meadowlands complex are going to be huge for betting? Seems like they didn't play well.

The issue comes down to expenses. Both Monmouth and the Meadowlands have teemed up with a sports betting provider, which means they are sharing any revenue. I am guessing for their share that the PaddyPower/FanDuel and William Hill are providing personnel, betting lines, and most importantly risk assumption. The tracks are providing a physical location and low level personnel. Neither group has much of an incentive to put huge dollars into construction, especially considering William Hill etc would much prefer you to bet online or with your phone.

If Monmouth and the Meadowlands had slots and a tone of cash I believe that even with the low level of return on sports betting, they would put serious dollars into a really nice race and sports book. just as a kick ass amenity, since far more people bet sports than horses nowadays, especially younger folks. But neither track has that kind of renovation cash. Monmouth at least has a whole empty grandstand area behind their sports book that they could upgrade...not sure about the Meadowlands.

I think that I would go full out to get personable people unlike myself in the building, sell them hotdogs and beer and nachos at a decent markup and create some buzz. Make it a guy's day out thing. You do it right you will make more money from concessions than the share of the sports betting proceeds. And you cannot lose money on concessions like you can on booking sports bets.

I took my 19 year old son to the runners at Saratoga last year, first time I had been their in ages after 30 straight years of attending starting when I was 5. Unlike me, who was reading the Daily Racing Form and Sports Eye daily starting at ten years old, and bet on sports since my early teens, he only has a casual interest in handicapping. What was most interesting to him that day was the twenty and thirty somethings drinking beer and smoking cigars in the paddock area. I think sports betting could, if made into a really appealing group experience, could draw in a demographic to the track that is currently missing.

[SalaciousCrumb.]

Once their online betting goes live in september why not just bet from home ??

[SpencerRossJr]

The issue comes down to expenses. Both Monmouth and the Meadowlands have teemed up with a sports betting provider, which means they are sharing any revenue. I am guessing for their share that the PaddyPower/FanDuel and William Hill are providing personnel, betting lines, and most importantly risk assumption. The tracks are providing a physical location and low level personnel. Neither group has much of an incentive to put huge dollars into construction, especially considering William Hill etc would much prefer you to bet online or with your phone.

If Monmouth and the Meadowlands had slots and a tone of cash I believe that even with the low level of return on sports betting, they would put serious dollars into a really nice race and sports book. just as a kick ass amenity, since far more people bet sports than horses nowadays, especially younger folks. But neither track has that kind of renovation cash. Monmouth at least has a whole empty grandstand area behind their sports book that they could upgrade...not sure about the Meadowlands.

I think that I would go full out to get personable people unlike myself in the building, sell them hotdogs and beer and nachos at a decent markup and create some buzz. Make it a guy's day out thing. You do it right you will make more money from concessions than the share of the sports betting proceeds. And you cannot lose money on concessions like you can on booking sports bets.

I took my 19 year old son to the runners at Saratoga last year, first time I had been their in ages after 30 straight years of attending starting when I was 5. Unlike me, who was reading the Daily Racing Form and Sports Eye daily starting at ten years old, and bet on sports since my early teens, he only has a casual interest in handicapping. What was most interesting to him that day was the twenty and thirty somethings drinking beer and smoking cigars in the paddock area. I think sports betting could, if made into a really appealing group experience, could draw in a demographic to the track that is currently missing.

Very well put. FYI I walked through Victory last night , full of people eating and waiting to bet with clerks. I believe they will do fine with low stakes players betting into bad lines, for entertainment. If they open for NFL on Sundays it will be packed. However contractual limitations may not allow them to open on days Jets or Giants play. They will also do well in March. How it plays for racing and the potential casino remains to be seen..

[harnesstimes]

 I hope that Jeff passes away before he sees one cent of profit from the adventure