Sorella Not Thrilled With Draw Process

[Equus Caballus]

its 512/1 for any respective consecutive combo

ex

posts 1,8,4 respectively week after week

or 1,1,1
doesnt matter

they are independent trials
unless its a handicapped race of course

please stop messing with my head
been working all day

[Equus Caballus]

If you have 1 chance in 8, then the odds are 7-1.
Just like if you have 1 chance in 2 (coin flip), your odds are 1-1, not 2-1.

yes 1/8 is the same as 7 to 1

i should have clarified to bernie
using the right keys on the board

its 511 to 1 or 1/512
same thing

[hunglikeachandelier]

Last week it was a 1/6 to draw the rail, and this week a 1/8. So wouldn't it be a 1/48 chance, would that be 5-1 x 7-1 or 35-1 odds?

[Equus Caballus]

Last week it was a 1/6 to draw the rail, and this week a 1/8. So wouldn't it be a 1/48 chance, would that be 5-1 x 7-1 or 35-1 odds?

Yes I figured they were full fields
For the elims

I don’t watch that excuse of a harness track

[mohawkid]

It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l

[Powerful Patricks Ghost]

It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l

Correct. The odds don't change because they are independent trials but you can still get the odds of drawing X number a Y number of consecutive trials. Assuming a fair draw the odds for each draw will be 1/X where X =field size.

[Equus Caballus]

It does not matter the week before
It has nothing to do with it
8 horse field you have 12.5% chance to draw any position
The next week you have the same 12.5% chance it’s not 1/64 l

Yes 12.5 percent each time but when you must draw the same two starts In a row it’s 1/64 or 63 to 1 assuming both starts are 8 horse fields

This is simple math
What are we not understanding?

1/8 times 1/8 equals 1/64

[towtruck]

100 divided by 8

[slivercharm]

Sorella should eat an occasional salad, get some exercise and stop crying.

When did everyone in harness racing get obese?

To many stake dinners at Yonkers I bet

[Field_In_Motion]

ALMOST TRIPPED OVER OUR TABLE WITH SOME FAT LURKY FELLA AND A MINI VERSION LAST WEEK WHEN THEY ALL WENT TO WINNERS CIRCLE.

[Parked]

They change things to get the best horses in the big races  and then supplemental entries complain about post positions draws.  They want to sit on the sidelines and just pay up to get in for the big bucks.  Why not allow for PP draws for winning elmination horses if the horse was paid into stake all the way. If supplemental you draw for remaining PP.
The supplemental payment is much like buying a stock the last day before divivend payment , grabbing dividend and then selling the next day. 

[LUCPARK]

They change things to get the best horses in the big races  and then supplemental entries complain about post positions draws.  They want to sit on the sidelines and just pay up to get in for the big bucks.  Why not allow for PP draws for winning elmination horses if the horse was paid into stake all the way. If supplemental you draw for remaining PP.
The supplemental payment is much like buying a stock the last day before divivend payment , grabbing dividend and then selling the next day.  

 THATS idiotic


HOW ABOUT U WIN AN ELIM U PICK POST
OR IS THAT TO HARD,,

 

[Fatboy]

 THATS idiotic


HOW ABOUT U WIN AN ELIM U PICK POST
OR IS THAT TO HARD,,

 

YOU WIN, YOU PICK POST, MAKES THE MOST SENSE. KEEPS FOLKS FROM CRYING ABOUT NO TRYS IN ELIMS TOO.....

[Brown jug]

your missing an important point
 was the elimination a open draw.. of course
 so by  bad luck some horse drew the 6,7,8 hole
but they make it to the final finishing third or fourth
so they automatically only get to draw for the outside again
all races including finals should be an open draw( all based on luck)
otherwise a horse that gets a good draw in the elimination is potentially rewarded twice for the good draw
as bill robinson said about posts, if you are that worried about the post, maybe your horse is not as good as you think he is
as for not trying in the elimination, fine, drivers can take their chances ,
as for gamblers don't bet them  , there is hundreds of other  races every day , bet the finals

[Fatboy]

your missing an important point
 was the elimination a open draw.. of course
 so by  bad luck some horse drew the 6,7,8 hole
but they make it to the final finishing third or fourth
so they automatically only get to draw for the outside again
all races including finals should be an open draw( all based on luck)
otherwise a horse that gets a good draw in the elimination is potentially rewarded twice for the good draw
as bill robinson said about posts, if you are that worried about the post, maybe your horse is not as good as you think he is
as for not trying in the elimination, fine, drivers can take their chances ,
as for gamblers don't bet them  , there is hundreds of other  races every day , bet the finals

Good points...all. Maybe some sour grapes from Jimmy Fright camp?