Indiana Sire Stakes

[LUCPARK]

  A SIRES PROGRAM DESIGNED WITH NO VISION

....26.500 FOR SIRES LEG ARE YOU KIDDING ME,,

THIS AINT MICHIGAN

GET A PLAN ,,BEFORE YOU TEAR DOWN A PERFECTLY GOOD PROGRAM THT A WAS WORKIN FOR YEARS..

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE LET AMERICA DOWN

NOW I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE LAST GREAT BECKON OF HOPE ..

A PLACE WHERE LITTLE CHANGE HAPPENS.
.THEN THIS

PARTICPATION TROPHIES TO ALL THE FUCKIN CRYBABIES AT STATE FAIRS..

ENJOY,,,HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LAST YR. FOR HIS NONSENSE

AND THEY WILL GO BACK TO FIVE ELIMINATIONS FOR 20K AND 5 ,75K FINALS.


,,WE HAVE TO DO BETTER ,,

OR STEP THE FUCK DOWN.,.

ALL THE FUCKIN CRYBABIES  WANT PARTICIPATION TROPHIES

JOIN THE FUCKING CUB SCOUTS OR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY..

BUT STOP RUINING THE BEST SIRES PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY




26500 IS AN,..EMBARRESSMENT

THIS AINT HAWTHORNE..

[swoodall]

It's pretty simple and most common folk understand.

Too much stakes money was being stolen by the juicers and the honest barns were getting shafted.

Under the new system the juicers will steal less and the mom and pops will receive more.

Win - Win scenario if you believe in leveling the playing field?

[horses first]

I don't believe that was the explanation that was given to me by Indiana commission office. This direction only helps the bigger stables that carry plenty of pacing inventory. Say if Burke, Miller, Brown to name a few has four or more pacing colts they now get 1 horse in each divison. Now they get to max out on points in each divison. Points earned along the way guarantee you could have two top trainers get 6 or more of the 10 final slots. How does that even the playing field? I see this year in and year out with PA trotting ranks loaded with Takter horses. Or in OH with Brown pacers. Or PA with Burke pacers. This way same as the old way in the other states cater to the big stables. With 8 of these legs all worth points by the 3rd leg mom and pop will be out of contention, horses will be beat up with fast miles getting a small check. Horses will drop out leaving 2 or 3 fields with bigger purses for the bigger trainers to take down. I'm common folk and don't see the win win here?

IN had the best program because off a tier basis. If you couldn't reach the 75k final after the elims. You had a 25k consolation and another 17k consolation if you had enough entries. One week you race for 20k the next for the 3 purses I provided. X 5 legs = 10 races. Now 8 legs and your first is for 26k. IN fucked up the best sire program in the states.

[swoodall]

I don't believe that was the explanation that was given to me by Indiana commission office. This direction only helps the bigger stables that carry plenty of pacing inventory. Say if Burke, Miller, Brown to name a few has four or more pacing colts they now get 1 horse in each divison. Now they get to max out on points in each divison. Points earned along the way guarantee you could have two top trainers get 6 or more of the 10 final slots. How does that even the playing field? I see this year in and year out with PA trotting ranks loaded with Takter horses. Or in OH with Brown pacers. Or PA with Burke pacers. This way same as the old way in the other states cater to the big stables. With 8 of these legs all worth points by the 3rd leg mom and pop will be out of contention, horses will be beat up with fast miles getting a small check. Horses will drop out leaving 2 or 3 fields with bigger purses for the bigger trainers to take down. I'm common folk and don't see the win win here?

IN had the best program because off a tier basis. If you couldn't reach the 75k final after the elims. You had a 25k consolation and another 17k consolation if you had enough entries. One week you race for 20k the next for the 3 purses I provided. X 5 legs = 10 races. Now 8 legs and your first is for 26k. IN fucked up the best sire program in the states.

Before today I knew nothing of the changes.

I watch the pre-race show with Emily and Steve Cross who explained the changes as a win for the smaller stables.

This year there are no consolation races and according to frick and frack there will be an average of 2-3 divisions depending on the number of entries which should spread the money out to more horses and therefore more barns.

At least that is the what I took away from their conversation.

But honestly Jim, I believe you over them.

I kinda felt they were going a little bit overboard defending the new system.

Which meant there had to be some pissed off horsemen who were against these changes...like Luke.

I took that to mean the dominate horses would make less money overall while the rest trickled down.

If how you explained it is true, and I believe you hit the nail on the head, then I got then the management spin.

Not knowing the details left me to assume that how they were spinning the changes had to be straight up.

And by the way they did reference Pennsylvania as a model they were emulating.

So Rocco I apologize for repeating the corporate spin.

I guess Emily and Steve will say what they are paid to say.



....I just finished cleaning up the water in my garage, luckily no damage this time.....can someone please stop the rain?

[LUCPARK]

Two yrs olds will have many more divisions  with 2 less final legs

I see 15k to l8k sires legs for pacers

Very sad what has been done to a once
Great sires program

[Wilderness Don]

FUCK ALL YOU ILLINOISE CRY BABAIES

[Germy dDay]

https://www.in.gov/hrc/files/ISS%20dates.pdf

SWOODALL COMPLAINING AS IF HE OWNS A HORSE. NOW THATS A RIOT BY A CRYBABY LEFTIST.  COMPLAIN JUST TO COMPLAIN

[Ron Harvey]

Emily gaskin love to date those apes!     🧔🏾👨🏿 That holiday kid is about to lose his mind.  But she just can’t help it.  😂

[Atthetrack7]

 Indyanna would be wise to make Sires stake racing open only to true Indyanna Residents,  Keep those ILLYNOISE scums where they belong, behind state lines

[PIGLAND]

seems like a bad idea

[hoosierboy]

That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve heard there is only so many horseman that live in Indiana so if they isolate outside people that would kill the breeding industry.

[AGUA CALIENTE]

All the Heavyweight 3 YO  are in to go. Who comes out on top is anyone's guess ?

[Exit 16W]

 YOU MIDWEST FOLK SHOULD BE RACING IN JERSEY

$160K PURSE GOT 5 ENTRANTS
$120K  GOT 4

[LUCPARK]

seems like a bad idea

WE CAN ONLY that  BETTER THOUGHT AND VISION GOES INTO SIRES STAKES PROGRAM FOR 2020

[LUCPARK]

All the Heavyweight 3 YO  are in to go. Who comes out on top is anyone's guess ?

3 of the 4 divisions are good

race 4 is incredibly good race..

..I got it

race 4,,,
6 1 3 7....in that order see what happens its gonna be good one

maybe RGF can get lucky and move up a FEW SPOTS..