I Can't Take it Anymore

[PIGLAND]

 my 5% from Yonkers ends up being much more than the 2-3 other tracks we race at, every month...


 if you got no skin in the game, grab yer shovel

you better get a job,sad you are

[bigwrench]

 my 5% from Yonkers ends up being much more than the 2-3 other tracks we race at, every month...


 if you got no skin in the game, grab yer shovel

yeah right 
With everything costing 3-5 times more there
You are ahead by how much genious?

[bond]

I realize they are trying to win-but since this is a GAMBLING form of entertainment-the Gamblers need to be looked after .
When a horse is not on the front end at Yonkers and the driver of the leader slows down the second 1/4 to two seconds or more from the first quarter-the horses behind chances of winning are greatly reduced-gamblers get frustrated seeing this time and again=handle going down-loss of fan base.
I suggest that drivers who drop 2 seconds or more in the second 1/4 from the first-get 0% drivers fee and his 5% gets paid to the horses that didnt get a check.
This will add incentive for drivers to go just a little faster that second 1/4-make other drivers happy-and the gamblers also as its now a race where 7 horses chances of winning are improved. If the winner is good enough-it can still win-everyone happy.
No driver should be rewarded for turning a race into a pet walking affair.
Lets have some real racing.!!!!

[Harness Driver]

 That's my money you are talking about, BOZO. My job is to finish  where I intend to.  Notice I didn't say, WIN the race, I drive race horses for my benefit, not you degenerate gamblers.  I put my life on the line so I can make a few bucks  and transfer what was in your pocket into mine.  Beautiful life isn't it.

[Brown jug]

or you could just bet the horses that are going to the front
called handicapping
you cannot beat them so either stop or get on  board

[toothman]

to me its not about cashing tickets.
its about having a product out there that generates enough excitement to create , i don't know, maybe one new fan?

[Superfecta]

This issue isn't only at Yonkers, it's at every track except Northfield. Big tracks like Meadowlands and Mohawk aren't any different. Guys don't pull until the 5/8th's or if they pull earlier they don't advance while waiting for cover and that guy does the same while also waiting. It's a boring sport and as we die off so goes the fan base. It's only here because the law says it has to be for the slot licence. Once that changes then you can turn off the lights.

[Papillon]

I realize they are trying to win-but since this is a GAMBLING form of entertainment-the Gamblers need to be looked after .
When a horse is not on the front end at Yonkers and the driver of the leader slows down the second 1/4 to two seconds or more from the first quarter-the horses behind chances of winning are greatly reduced-gamblers get frustrated seeing this time and again=handle going down-loss of fan base.
I suggest that drivers who drop 2 seconds or more in the second 1/4 from the first-get 0% drivers fee and his 5% gets paid to the horses that didnt get a check.
This will add incentive for drivers to go just a little faster that second 1/4-make other drivers happy-and the gamblers also as its now a race where 7 horses chances of winning are improved. If the winner is good enough-it can still win-everyone happy.
No driver should be rewarded for turning a race into a pet walking affair.
Lets have some real racing.!!!!

there’s where you don’t get it

the fans mean nothing

handle is meaningless purses funded by gaming

fans get shit on with past posting on the bets  and super drug trainers with multiple beards

why would you ever think fans matter?

times have changed ... what’s good for the public doesn’t happen

[slimshady]

Papillon    ....  "why would you ever think fans matter?"

I'm a small owner and don't feel like I matter.
Race clean and get beat by a lesser horse.

So if the fan doesn't matter and the gambler doesn't matter and the small owner doesn't matter, who matters in this game

[wiggles44]

This issue isn't only at Yonkers, it's at every track except Northfield. Big tracks like Meadowlands and Mohawk aren't any different. Guys don't pull until the 5/8th's or if they pull earlier they don't advance while waiting for cover and that guy does the same while also waiting. It's a boring sport and as we die off so goes the fan base. It's only here because the law says it has to be for the slot licence. Once that changes then you can turn off the lights.

 

[Papillon]

Papillon    ....  "why would you ever think fans matter?"

I'm a small owner and don't feel like I matter.
Race clean and get beat by a lesser horse.

So if the fan doesn't matter and the gambler doesn't matter and the small owner doesn't matter, who matters in this game

the fraction of  gaming revenue that is legislatively obligated to fund purses
is about the only thing that matters

integrity, level playing field and justice all left decades ago

[NJ HORSEMAN]

the fraction of  gaming revenue that is legislatively obligated to fund purses
is about the only thing that matters

integrity, level playing field and justice all left decades ago

THE PEOPLE WHO RACED HORSES 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO  CHEATED EVERY BIT AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE THAN HORSEMEN OF TODAY

[Fatboy]

THE PEOPLE WHO RACED HORSES 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO  CHEATED EVERY BIT AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE THAN HORSEMEN OF TODAY

THIS IS A FACT

[Papillon]

when are you idiots gonna get it!! the gamblers are ALL that matters?

No bettors = No Racing - END OF STORY!!

you’re an idiot

handle means nothing

Tioga handles $60k.... they’re not going anywhere

[Fatboy]

you’re an idiot

handle means nothing

Tioga handles $60k.... they’re not going anywhere