Tipping a driver too little. My friend feels so embarrassed

[Fatboy]

Fatboy, not sure if u ever stabled or raced at Monti but the burgers, fries and shakes from The Bean Bag tasted pretty good to a broke kid horseman like me back in the day.😀😀

  Some days it was great just to see the roach coach come around

[the master]

At least you could sit down at the Round Robin!

[The Exporter]

Grooms are making a ton? So, for a 6 day work week at 69 hours a week, a gross wage of $950.000 using your wage figures. Not making much in today's labor market.
 If a person was to make $12.00 per hour for 40 hours is $480.00 a week. The 29 additional hours at time and 1/2= $522.00= $1002.00.
 Backside workers in New York have had a great deal of support from the Department of Labor, recently. At the Thoroughbred tracks, the state has stepped in on behalf of grooms , hot walkers and stable hands and reclassified their status, resulting in minimum wage violations along with time and 1/2 for more than 40 hours a week. A multitude of trainers were fined and ordered to pay back wages. Chad Brown, the top earning trainer at Saratoga and also the #1 labor offender, ordered to repay his employees millions in unpaid wages.
 The world is changing in the way lower level employees are compensated. $950.00 for a 69 hour , 6 day work week is no longer considered acceptable compensation.

[Fatboy]

Hi All . I know some guys are going to rip me but this is what I think . The grooms are making A LOT of money these days and they usually get a win bonus on paddock , plus they do usually do 2 paddocks a night which gives them 150 plus there weekly pay ( great money) so think about this,  rub 5 = 500 a week - work 3 nights paddocking Total  6 at 75 a paddock that right do the math . FACT . Drivers make a ton , trainers make a ton ! But the second trainer works there asses off , that’s who you tip they make less then the grooms . Just my opinion

SOME TRUTH HERE

[The Exporter]

If you know grooms working 30 hours a week making $600-$700 a week, they may be in the top 5% in their field. Are they in a union?

[Fatboy]

Hi All , wow ! Grooms work 7am to12 =5 hours a day 6 days a week = 30 hours in barn that’s 16.5 a hour and some rub six or seven horses which brings it up to 600 or 700 which brings barn work up to 20 a hour if they stay home . Now if they go to the paddock and do 2 paddocks for 75 = 150 for 5 hours that’s 30 a hour .sorry  Just MATH !!!!!!! The Thoroughbred only pay 300 a week that’s why they got in trouble .FACT

THEY WORKIN FROM 6 TILL ONE AND MORE MOSTLY

[Fatboy]

If you know grooms working 30 hours a week making $600-$700 a week, they may be in the top 5% in their field. Are they in a union?

AINT HAPPENIN

[Calhoun]

What's a groom making, say $750 a week, doing for health insurance? 

Too rich for Medicaid. 

They all ObamaCare on 100% subsidy?

[The Exporter]

If grooms taking care of 5 head are working till noon or 1pm, when do they get vet work or shoeing? 

[LUCPARK]

If grooms taking care of 5 head are working till noon or 1pm, when do they get vet work or shoeing? 

Shoes get done usually after horses jogged and fed breakfast

Vet usually comes late mornings or early afternoon with needs



That how term and my trainer has been doing it many yrs

[Fatboy]

What's a groom making, say $750 a week, doing for health insurance? 

Too rich for Medicaid. 

They all ObamaCare on 100% subsidy?

We were never offered health insurance OR workmans comp.  If you were handy, they looked after you....hardly a fair way to go, and I hope it has improved.

[Fatboy]

If grooms taking care of 5 head are working till noon or 1pm, when do they get vet work or shoeing?

assistants around to shank the vet work horses, and hold for vet while instructing how to shoe per bossman....grooms snoozing/drinking, whatever...

[Emperor Dapple]

It's a Dunkin Donuts now.

Yeah,  saw that...Everything that was enjoyable up there is gone unfortunately..Ni ce memories though!!

[jack savine jr]

Whats the proper tip

He  slide the guy a TEN SPOT

Guy looked at him and gave it back

Rude am i right

Disclose this ungrateful and disrespectful prick who drove your friends horse. Owners support this industry, your friend is new to the business and was probably really excited on how his horse performed. If you (the driver) don't want the owners money, thank the owner and then hand it to the groom; but, don't disrespect an owner!

Now, disclose this prick driver!

[LUCPARK]

Actually

Guy saw my friend paddock
Apologize he was having a bad night

We all have them

He’s ok with it now my pal

Movin to Illinois and Indy racin for spring and summer

My pal didn’t understand the tippin stuff