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i don't need to reply because bond is on point and 100% correct
you obviously have no regard for decent hard working horsemen of whom there are many.
You choose the negative-because of your blind hatred betting on horses that lost--typical disgruntled loser-see them all the time tearing up tickets and blaming everyone except themselves-because thats why its called GAMBLING.
We all know slots are rigged--but funnily enough I dont hear you complaining that all Casinos should shut-because the HOUSE has the advantage.
You choose to keep portraying the scumbag horsemen as somehow representing everyone.
Industry-is AGRICULTURE-no matter how you slice it.
The Casinos-make more money fleecing retirees like yourself-from their social security checks-than they do from harness racing which admittedly-has been very poorly run-but received no support from the Casinos-which partnerships are supposed to do.
It will cause farms to close-and instead of seeing horses running in green pastures-you will be seeing shopping malls and retiree villages.
The word ENTITLED is thrown around a lot. Welfare was designed to give a hand up...not a hand out. It was to give a person a chance to make it on their own...not support them forever. Same principle applies to horse racing.
The good hardworking horsemen did nothing but sit back and watch their sport go in the shitter because they thought they were all set when they got the slot money. They turned a blind eye, supported the drug abusers or joined in the party to rob the gamblers"who were the lifeblood" out of their money without giving a fuck. The horsemen were lucky to get the money they got out of the slots but all things end. The biggest thing the horsemen did was drive out the little guys and the big money barns spent more on pre-racing and making the industry look like shit! Patrick is right.
How about the Democrat Politicians who just voted to get 25MILLION as a handout ? They deserve that? Thats 46000$ a piece-why?
False! https://www.morningsun.net/zz/news/20200330/fact-check-did-house-give-itself-pay-raise-in-coronavirus-relief-package A whole generation of a certain segment of the population brainwashed by Fox Faux News and conservative radio. Think I'm FOS? If you're brainwashed, you wouldn't even know you are.
Of course you agree with Patrick-you both dislike the Sport--no idea why you come on this site-other than to dispense hatred.I would hate to be in your shoes. Never one good idea or positive vibe from any of your posts. We all know you got it up the ass-Im sorry about that.Let it go- I think you will be better for it.In any venue in life when you are in a partnership-you BOTH have to do your best to make your business work.I agree fully with both of you that harness racing did very little to entice anyone to come to the track or make it very attractive to gamble.The Casinos-on the other hand did 0 to work with the horsemen-because it was not in their best interest-and thats where the partnership started to deteriorate.Contr acts put into place were not in horsemens best interest other than the small % from the Casino. One partner wanted the other gone and the other partner did very little to help themselves or to discourage the other from not helping by working together..The good horsemen are still there--they just changed course.The cheats-congregated in areas that allowed them to cheat-no barn raids,no out of competition testing,Vets running amok with pre race and injecting PE that went unchecked.This is the area where only the FBI could help-because people like Joe Faraldo-protected these cheats from the commission and made it impossible to catch them . The FBI proved this part to be true-because look who they raided--Allard and Banca-both trainers for Faraldo. Surick was the informant-as his phone was bugged and he had very shady connections-and was running amok at Freehold with every other horsemen there complaining about him-until they finally put the nail in his coffin.Greed will bring you Karma every time. Sadly--removing the cheats-wont do much to revive the Sport. What is needed is new technology and ideas to make people WANT to bet. Sure removing cheats gives people confidence-but if truth be told-gamblers bet on the cheats-because they cheated to WIN-and you dont make money gambling on LOSERS.So gamblers may have more confidence that the sport is cleaner-but why would they bet more?There is no advertising, no perks for the gambler, no great facilities to watch and wager at places like Yonkers(all gone), no help from the Casino-which may have happened early on-but hard to do now. Hell-families cant even go to most tracks-as they are barred from the Casino! Harness really needs to follow the example of successful tracks and give the gambler incentives to bet-they are out there-and we better start using them.
Bond,First off I’ve always respected your opinions, as each one of your posts display a well thought out insight to the topic at large. Doesn't mean I always agree with what's written, and this is one such time.Digressing from the specific topic at hand relating to Ohio horsemen, I fail to embrace at anytime has there ever existed a genuine “partnership” between the racing and casino industries. Simply put, the casino developers had to subsidize the racing industry in order to build on an existing racing facility, and pay for the right to do so. That’s about where this so called partnership ended. By and large though the casino's were offering a product to the public that was sought after, not the other way around.Bear in mind I’m a current owner and have owned pieces of about 40 horses since 2005. Long time fan of the game (and gambler) dating back to the late 1970s, so it’s not that I don’t have a tangible and intangible interest in this industry’s survival. I still love the game. In the end though this is still a retail business, in the gaming/entertainment industry, with a definitive need for an end user (the public). That being said there are simply no end users anymore, much having do to with an aged fan base, technology innovations, and most of all changing desires of what people what to gamble on with their discretionary $. Couple that with an industry that had absolutely no foresight into investing in itself going forward after having had many years of opportunity (with so called partnership $), it's simply now one on life support, no mater who works in it. There have been many “hard workers” in many industries that are now defunct or significantly scaled back so the hard worker notion has no merit here or anywhere. Travel agents eliminated by Travel websites, newspaper workers eliminated by online media blogs, back office admin workers replaced by automation and outsourcing just to name a few. Similarly casino gambling, onsite or online, as a product way preferred over horse racing, in particular harness racing. Changing times here, nothing more.
Back in the day professional handicappers in harness racing made their money off of the dead money in the pools. Slots came and the dead money went there, add to that the race fixing and peds and most bettors left harness and handicappers were left out in the cold. I favor places like the exchange that operates in NJ and many places worldwide. Much easier to make money when there are no pari-mutuel pools where all the money comes in so late there is nothing you can do about it.
