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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2020, 08:46:44 PM »
I actually paid more than that horse got claimed for.  I was actually happy to lose the horse.  I usually hate to lose them but this guy was a handful.  Dick Stillings drove him for me. I only drove him once or twice and he wasn't made for me .

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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2020, 04:46:36 PM »
Going back and forth to Ravenna.......... .....must have taken its toll..........its all hay and oats..........sur e it is............
Just love doing the broadcast. Shuley, Chumlee, Paddock have gotten used to the holier than thou attitude. We only work on the show, because we get paid. Dealing with Ringo is a different story.

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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2020, 06:32:50 PM »
Going back and forth to Ravenna.......... .....must have taken its toll..........its all hay and oats..........sur e it is............
I am glad that you finally figured it out.  You are a rock star.

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« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2020, 08:05:23 PM »
Thank you Gym...……….I understand that you nominated me...………...PA trainer of the year...……….My horses...…...My wife and my assistant...……..Mike really appreciate the honor...…...and the role you played...…….

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« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2020, 09:03:29 AM »
Mr Bercury would you care to elaborate on your recent hormone positive? Thank you in advance

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« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2020, 10:38:18 AM »
Say it ain΄t so! Can΄t say groom pissed in stall, must be a mistake, ate it in the hay.

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« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2020, 10:40:02 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2020, 10:54:33 AM »
Mr Bercury would you care to elaborate on your recent hormone positive? Thank you in advance

Are you referring ti his goomah........... .......Come on Sam.............. .....With Randy gone now.............. ......maybe some test results just might come out differently...... ...............I forgot........... ........hay and oats............. ...shame on me............... .........
Just love doing the broadcast. Shuley, Chumlee, Paddock have gotten used to the holier than thou attitude. We only work on the show, because we get paid. Dealing with Ringo is a different story.

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« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2020, 11:12:43 AM »
Mr Bercury would you care to elaborate on your recent hormone positive? Thank you in advance
On December 2nd, I decided it as time to give Beach a 30 day rest.  Prior to turning him out I took him to a very good vet for a lameness exam.  Beach has had big wind puffs on his left front ankle since he was a three year old.  The Vet told me that he had something that would suck those wind puffs down and that they would never return.  I asked if there was any exposure to a positive test and he said that he had done it over 200 times and there had never been a problem.  I said go for it.  The wind puffs disappeared and the horse enjoyed a vacation.

Two and a half months later, 2/24/2020, the horse won and was tested.  He tested positive for the substance injected on 12/5/2019. I was shocked and disappointed. We contacted Dr. Robinson at Penn school of Veterinary Pharmacology and she informed us that she was not surprised it is sticking around a long time.  The drug is lipophilic, meaning that it attaches itself to fatty tissues and stays there.
 
The reason there haven't been positives on previous horses is that female hormones have not been called until the middle of last year.  Most of us use Regumate on our mares and in the middle of last year, several people were fined for progesterone (from Regumate) at the Meadows.  They are calling it when it is discovered in Geldings or Horses because it is known to have a calming effect.   Ohio did not start calling Progesterone until the first of this year.

Medroxyprogestero ne Acetate is not the same progesterone found in Regumate. It is a hormone that humans use for birth control. It used to be used widely in the horse business and was labeled depo-----?  It will definitely stick around for a long time.  I have been told that there is another positive for it in Ohio but have not verified it. 

I was intent on sending the sample out for a retest until Dr.Robinson VMD explained the stickiness of the drug.  The real shame of it is that the wind puffs did not bother the horse.  They just looked ugly.  I you have a mare with wind puffs, this stuff will suck them down. If you have a gelding or stallion. stay away from anything that say progesterone.

 

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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2020, 11:20:49 AM »
Are you referring ti his goomah........... .......Come on Sam.............. .....With Randy gone now.............. ......maybe some test results just might come out differently...... ...............I forgot........... ........hay and oats............. ...shame on me............... .........
Roger also wanted to thank you for your support on his recent award.

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« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2020, 02:00:42 PM »
On December 2nd, I decided it as time to give Beach a 30 day rest.  Prior to turning him out I took him to a very good vet for a lameness exam.  Beach has had big wind puffs on his left front ankle since he was a three year old.  The Vet told me that he had something that would suck those wind puffs down and that they would never return.  I asked if there was any exposure to a positive test and he said that he had done it over 200 times and there had never been a problem.  I said go for it.  The wind puffs disappeared and the horse enjoyed a vacation.


Sounds sketchy I used this in Ohio 72 hours out no issues sounds like you pushed it a little too far possible right before u leave?? Ur the same as the rest of them cheaters in pa hope you all go down
Two and a half months later, 2/24/2020, the horse won and was tested.  He tested positive for the substance injected on 12/5/2019. I was shocked and disappointed. We contacted Dr. Robinson at Penn school of Veterinary Pharmacology and she informed us that she was not surprised it is sticking around a long time.  The drug is lipophilic, meaning that it attaches itself to fatty tissues and stays there.
 
The reason there haven't been positives on previous horses is that female hormones have not been called until the middle of last year.  Most of us use Regumate on our mares and in the middle of last year, several people were fined for progesterone (from Regumate) at the Meadows.  They are calling it when it is discovered in Geldings or Horses because it is known to have a calming effect.   Ohio did not start calling Progesterone until the first of this year.

Medroxyprogestero ne Acetate is not the same progesterone found in Regumate. It is a hormone that humans use for birth control. It used to be used widely in the horse business and was labeled depo-----?  It will definitely stick around for a long time.  I have been told that there is another positive for it in Ohio but have not verified it. 

I was intent on sending the sample out for a retest until Dr.Robinson VMD explained the stickiness of the drug.  The real shame of it is that the wind puffs did not bother the horse.  They just looked ugly.  I you have a mare with wind puffs, this stuff will suck them down. If you have a gelding or stallion. stay away from anything that say progesterone.

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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2020, 02:14:46 PM »

Bill I used that 72 hours out in Ohio this year on gelding no prob sounds like u pushed it to far possible right before u loaded up? Your a joke just like the rest of pa hope you go down with them .. ps what are you gonna do with the oaks horse you bought when pa gives them days like everywhere else

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« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2020, 03:45:21 PM »
Roger is an over blown POS, he needs to just fade away.

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« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2020, 04:11:52 PM »
Bill I used that 72 hours out in Ohio this year on gelding no prob sounds like u pushed it to far possible right before u loaded up? Your a joke just like the rest of pa hope you go down with them .. ps what are you gonna do with the oaks horse you bought when pa gives them days like everywhere else
If you used the depo three days out you didn't get a positive because you didn't win.  I told you what happened and how it happened.  I don't like being called a liar by a jerk like you but it comes with the territory.  Difference between me and you is that I post who I am and you are a coward and hide behind a fake name.

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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2020, 04:21:24 PM »
Bill I used that 72 hours out in Ohio this year on gelding no prob sounds like u pushed it to far possible right before u loaded up? Your a joke just like the rest of pa hope you go down with them .. ps what are you gonna do with the oaks horse you bought when pa gives them days like everywhere else
If you used this 72 hours out, you are obviously a cheater as using it on a gelding or stallion is not permitted in Ohio effective 1/1/2020. Cheater!

 

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