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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2021, 07:23:25 PM »
Remember that "Indicted" does not mean Convicted!  It's called Due Process! Allard, Surick and the others can do business and Mr. Gural has every right to ban them from his tracks

But Jeff should name the owners that he knows FOR A FACT have horses with Allard.  Look at the trainers at the Pennsylvania tracks.  A lot of them are banned af the Meadowlands and they're doing just fine.

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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2021, 07:42:42 PM »
yes they are indicted for now but to think they are not guilty of some charges is foolish
 i assume there was some restrictions put on how involved they could be or they would have just carried on as they were until the trial, the fact they are doing it under other trainers and hidden ownership suggests they are again not complying
good for gural and hopefully others who see through this and put a stop to it

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2021, 07:48:28 PM »
yes, it continues to be an ongoing serious problem and those that cant compete honestly or cant buy the best bred horses will try to cheat the system
but lets be honest how hard has the industry been trying to correct the problem
if a vaccine for an unknown virus can be created in less than 12 months i have to think that proper testing could be implemented to catch any and all irregularities
but you have to make it a commitment and fund it accordingly

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2021, 08:39:08 PM »
Awesome News! Now if the Pocono and Harrah's would clean up their act then maybe some people would be interested in getting involved 1 more time in sport. It is so obvious what has been going on and what continues to be going on with bearded trainers and juiced up horses and the commissions at those tracks just sit back at watch them being made fools of and the industry self destructing. The betting public wants FAIR races and are not nearly concerned about the speed of the animal but more the thrill of watching a talented driver or talented trainer deliver a respectable product.

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2021, 09:01:48 PM »
are they gonna catch burke?

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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2021, 09:24:13 PM »
are they gonna catch burke?

  Not if Mr. Integrity, Jeff Giural has anything to say about it. Check out the Pig M's 5th race, Burke two entries, with common ownership, 6- the co-favorite with the French Fraud, 10- 27-1 with Dube. Guess who won?

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2021, 09:30:07 PM »
The betting public wants FAIR races and are not nearly concerned about the speed of the animal but more the thrill of watching a talented driver or talented trainer deliver a respectable product.

The betting "public"  could care less about watching a driver or a trainer.  If you think that "thrills" them you are sadly mistaken.  Any thrill comes from cashing a ticket or seeing their horse blow out the field, sweep the field from last or set a speed record

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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2021, 09:43:04 PM »
Cashing a ticket and winning a race is absolutely exciting. Doing it on an even playing field makes it that much more exciting. Some people actually do enjoy the sport itself as entertainment and a night out or afternoon whatever. Sadly mistaken? I think not.

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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2021, 10:09:39 PM »
“Just hit a $300 exacta but the way that horse raced he had to be juiced. I don’t like that so here Mr. Teller you just keep it.”

Fuck off.
There is only one Minister in Harness Racing and his name is WEED!

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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2021, 10:17:15 PM »
Every public statement he makes says the same thing: I spent money and give me your money.

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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2021, 10:33:58 PM »
today we can catch on a test just about everything. problem is getting the convictions penalties upheld. too much gets thrown out.  its allways an excuse thats its enviormental or something. and the bigger the stable the smaller the excuse. hey if we only had 1 horse stables the game would be great. those guys get thrown out for a tiny bit of caffeen in a horse. a true enviorment excuse.

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Re: Allard
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2021, 02:43:31 AM »
Howard Taylor? Have horses with allard?

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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2021, 07:20:29 AM »
Agree.  They carry on business as usual.  Lots of scumbag owners out there.

I said 20 years ago when a trainer is suspended, suspend all the horses under his care. Whether he’s serving 15 days or 15 years and if this is done you will eliminate beard trainers and rid the business of the “Bad Owners” who just move on to the next guy in line who can help them steal. Gural’s new rule is at least a start. The problem is these owners always have someone in their pocket to step up and petition to change things to their advantage.

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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2021, 11:17:03 AM »
Send Allard’s dumb ass back to Canada. Deport him.

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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2021, 09:52:27 PM »
Send Allard’s dumb ass back to Canada. Deport him.

 Sorry, not going to happen. Allard is like Oglethorpe. "His subsequent deportation to Canada, and that countries refusal to accept him".

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