Doping Vet.Fishman GUILTY

[Emperor Dapple]

You go girl!!

https://paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/adrienne-hall-usta-should-focus-on-harness-racings-real-problem/

[hunglikeachandelier]

Do you honestly believe Burke is doping?

Awful spectacular feat if he is. He has horse's all over the place and I don't know how many people working for him to keep such a secret. His owners buy the best and he wins on numbers. jmo

You really can't believe that he's such a good trainer that the likes of Allard, Banca, etc. needed to dope horses to just keep up with his talents?

[Wawajones]

Ouch.  Spank the USTA.

[Emperor Dapple]

You really can't believe that he's such a good trainer that the likes of Allard, Banca, etc. needed to dope horses to just keep up with his talents?

Hmm, interesting point of view..

[pocketrocketwinner]

The bettors who got cheated by her ped juicing don't care bout the size of her stable, mental health or however naive she is/was. This lady never evens mentions gamblers once.

[Joe 4 all]

You go girl!!

https://paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/adrienne-hall-usta-should-focus-on-harness-racings-real-problem/

 AS I HAVE SAID DOZENS OF TIMES


  NEVER TRUST A CUNT, ESPECIALLY A CAUGHT CHEATING CUNT

[bond]

Adrienne Hall reply
Many valid points made in this very well written reply.
However a few details seem to be missing here.
1) Nothing mentioned about the damage done to gamblers-the main suppliers of the finances to the Sport --about getting well and truly screwed by Fishman and Co--and Miss Hall.
2) She was in Delaware not getting results from pre racing supplies from Poliseno--so someone told her if you want to win races you need to contact Fishman--obviously the supplier of designer drugs-to beat the system of testing and well and truly screw the gamblers.So she sought out Fishman as her "Vet"--and I have been told Fishman is a terrible Vet--wouldnt use him to look at a dog let alone a horse--he was and simply is--a peddler of drugs.Grasso-the other indicted Vet--really is a Vet and treats horses by attending to them-unlike Fishman. This can be confirmed by the evidence at trial of Miss Hall--Fishman never looked at her horses--just their bloods--so he could use his BB3 etc on them etc. He never physically looked at a horse--as is required by a Vet to sell prescriptiion meds.
3)Miss Hall muddied the water by insinuating that just because she never tested positive-as somehow no proof she was using BB3 etc. She then went on about Epogen not being able to be detected but she would never use that because it can hurt horses--yet she was willing to inject bottles of color coded drugs--not knowing what was in there!! BB3 is Epogen Mimetic--so it results in exactly the same result as if you were to use Epogen-with the biggest difference--it cant be detected at any time as there is no test for it in pre race,post race or out of competition racing. The only way to deal with this--is by the FBI--and by the USADA if they ever get the green light.. However the horse racing Industry keeps fighting the usada and hisa--so status quo remains.
I sympathize with Miss Hall--but no way-should she get or will get--a free pass.

[Locked in with pace]

To get off as she did makes absolutely no sense. The USTA has been promoting a slogan "see it -report it with a phone number"  (or something like that) for the purpose of stopping and catching the cheats. Well, SHE SAW IT, said nothing. UNTIL SHE GOT CAUGHT.

[Dr. O]

Bond,
Very well said!

[jupiter]

This has nothing to do with the USTA, if it was I'd be hammering them. They did there part. Itś Gural an the NJRC!!!! Why does she still have a license, she admitted she used illegal drugs, period!!!! Where's the state!!! Gural is a fucking idiot, he's done some really good things, but this is just stupid. If anybody else testifies, will they be allowed back? What about the rest?

[pocketrocketwinner]

Why is she not listed as the trainer of her horses,
 Did gural stipulate that Cano must be trainer on paper?

[Superfecta]

Adrienne Hall reply
Many valid points made in this very well written reply.
However a few details seem to be missing here.
1) Nothing mentioned about the damage done to gamblers-the main suppliers of the finances to the sport.

That quote is very wrong. The gamblers are meaningless. The main suppliers of the finances to the sport is the slot revenue from the racinos. The gamblers aren’t needed anymore. Most are gone and the few remaining aren’t betting like they did in the past. Way too much drugs and race fixing. People got sick and tired of being screwed.
This cunt cheated and shouldn’t be allowed to race ever again. The same can be said about everyone on Fishman’s list.

[bond]

Superfecta. - Miss Hall was racing at the Meadowlands with these Fishman loaded drugs.
Meadowlands has no slot machines or a Casino.
The bettors there should be looked after- not have to have drug induced form referrals to deal with . That’s my point

[Superfecta]

Superfecta. - Miss Hall was racing at the Meadowlands with these Fishman loaded drugs.
Meadowlands has no slot machines or a Casino.
The bettors there should be looked after- not have to have drug induced form referrals to deal with . That’s my point

Yes Sir. I absolutely agree with that.

[Horsepower]

The following commentary by Adrienne Hall is in response to a letter published in Harness Racing Update from Russell Williams, president of the United States Trotting Association, defending the USTA's revocation of Hall's membership in the organization following her testimony in the federal trial of Seth Fishman, who was convicted of drug adulteration and misbranding.

In response to his comments about me in the HRU, I have the following to say:

Russell Williams is veering from the facts and being disingenuous regarding the USTA's true motives. The USTA did not make the decision to take my membership based on my testimony.  T.C. Lane, CEO of the USTA, acknowledged to my attorney that it was done prior to my transcript being available and occurred after reading the one initial media report. Unlike the New Jersey Racing Commission, which waited to receive context from me and discuss the matter, the USTA was looking for a quick press release and nothing more when they revoked my membership. I've not held back once from speaking with any organization looking to learn more of the facts. The USTA's action and silence toward me feels as if it is a “punish the source” mentality instead of about cleaning up the game.

I did not have a “history” of using Performance Enhancing Drugs. In fact, this was my very first year in the harness business. If Williams thinks I walked into the barn knowing anything about drugs or pre-racing, guess again. He should be more concerned and utterly embarrassed that in the backyard of the USTA headquarters, one of the biggest dealers of illegal drugs was allowed free rein of the Ohio horses and trainers for years before the Feds stepped in to stop him.

If anyone at his organization were doing their job, the government, 5 Stones, Jockey Club and Jeff Gural would not have had to do it for them. No matter how many times he wants to state as fact that I reached out to Fishman solely to acquire PEDs, it doesn't mean it is true. Testimony and text messages put into evidence clearly show that I innocently reached out to Fishman to perform a lameness exam and to be my horses' primary vet in Florida. Other text messages brought in as evidence between Fishman and Gianelli show them discussing me as being “not very knowledgeable.” I was naïve.

In my testimony I did say that it was my understanding that had I been caught administering anything to my horses, I could potentially be in big trouble. What Russell was not privy to were the conversations that I had with the Feds and the FBI about this and they were hopeful that any governing body of a sport would be inclined to look more at the positives from my cooperation as opposed to focusing solely on the admissions I made.

Russell mentions BB3, TB7, etc..as some form of “gotcha” but can he tell me what they are? Has anyone had a positive test for these things? I did not want Epogen or to hurt my horses and I made that abundantly clear. What may be the biggest irony here is that while these drugs are untestable on race day, and he uses them as examples of my cheating, Williams and the USTA have fought HISA and its desire to implement comprehensive out-of competition testing that might very well have an impact on these substances' ability to be used; all while simultaneously touting how clean the industry's race day testing results are as a way to laughably argue against the need for HISA.

While what I did was wrong and I owned up to it despite never being indicted and working for two years with the Feds with no guarantees of the outcome, the USTA and Russell Williams' response to the criminal cases and my situation only goes to show where the real problem in harness racing lay.

Whether it be the USTA turning a blind eye to the thousands of horses who are ending up in kill pens, moving to eliminate Freezebrands to make the horses unidentifiable, or fighting Congress, WHOA, HISA, The Jockey Club, Breeders' Cup, Jeff Gural and USADA's efforts to clean up the sport, their arrogance and disregard for the issues in racing is telling. An organization that ignores their own board member, Joe Faraldo's, ties to indicted trainers, ignores the Fishman client list that became public recently, pushes back on everyone from Congress to aftercare entities while attacking a trainer with two horses in her care as the problem, is either arrogant, clueless, crooked, a part of the bigger problem, or probably all of the above.

The truth is, my situation is meaningless in the scope of the problems in racing, but they are using it to take the heat off of themselves and to appease the mob on social media (who before my testimony had them in their crosshairs).  For the president of any organization seeking credibility to deem my admitted mental health struggles during this situation as “entertaining” pretty much says it all. It's at best a diversion, a redirect, and childish while at the same time making clear he does not have the horses, industry or industry participants' best interests at heart.

I made a mistake. I owned up to that mistake. I did so willingly and would do it again even now knowing that it has resulted in what is probably my last race in the Standardbred industry. What I won't own or accept is the fact that a monopolistic entity and its leadership that is solely interested in protecting their own personal interests is going to set the narrative and lie their way towards making the public believe they give a damn.