Gural allows Hall (who testified) to race at Big M

[Calhoun]

ATC


YOU NEEDS TO X PLANE


It’s gotta be a classic explanation 

ATC 

The mislabled hoof cream excuse 

[MR.DALRAE]

ATC


YOU NEEDS TO X PLANE


It’s gotta be a classic explanation 

He's only the owner not the trainer

[COUNSELOR]

THE INTERESTING POINT OF TESTIFYING IN THE FISHMAN CASE AND ADMITTING ADMINISTERING PEDS TO HER OWN HORSES----AND NOW BEING PERMITTED TO RACE AS THOUGH IT NEVER OCCURRED?   THIS IS NOT WHAT MOST WOULD EXPECT---I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT THAT SHE DID COOPERATE AND DID HELP OBTAIN A CONVICTION BUT TRUTHFULLY SHE DID DO THE CRIME.   THE FAIR PUNISHMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TEN YEAR BAN FROM RACING OR SOMETHING SIMILAR -----BUT, NO PENALTY AT ALL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.   RECALL THAT THE TESTIMONY WAS OBTAINED AND SHE AGREED TO TESTIFY TO AVOID PROSECUTION.

THEREFORE, DOES THIS MEAN IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS TESTIFY THAT THEY WILL BE PERMITTED TO RACE WITHOUT PENALTY?    I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IN A VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT.

SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE WERE MANY LUCKY PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED.   FURTHER, THE NAMES ON THE LIST WERE SOME VERY PROMINANT OWNERS!!!!   I BELEIVE THAT THEY SHOULD OF JUST PUBLISHED WHO WAS NOT ON THE LIST!!!

THE SPORT HAS BEEN FOREVER TARNISHED AND TRUTHFULLY MAY NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DEBACLE.

THE STATES ARE IN A PERCARIOUS POSITION BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO DENY ONES RIGHT TO EARN A LIVING.  THE USTA HAS NO AUTHORITY EVEN THOUGH THEY BELIEVE THEY DO---IT IS THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE THAT IS IMPORTANT AND JUST ABOUT ANYONE CAN APPLY AND GET THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE!!!!

IF THE TRACKS DO NOT DENY THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED AND FOUND GUILTY --THEN LIFE GOES  ON AS NORMAL!

I STILL FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU CANNOT RACE IF YOU OWE A BILL AND YOU ARE DENIED THE RIGHT TO EARN A LIVING BUT YOU CAN ADMIT TO ADMINISTERING PEDS AND RACE AT THE TOP TRACK IN THE COUNTRY!!!  IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE TRACK BUT I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THE CRIME DID OCCUR AND THAT SOME PUNISHMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADMINISTERED.

[The Exporter]

There was a time the state would not license you if you did not have a USTA license. Furthermore, all states have a clause for "moral turpitude", as well as "in the best interest of racing". This gives them the power to refuse anyone a license if they so desire. Then the process of hearings and appeals play out.
 All you need is someone in the racing commission to step up and pledge the funds to challenge someone.

[COUNSELOR]

AGREED.  TIMES HAVE SURELY CHANGED.  I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING FIELD ( BUT NOT HORSE RACING LICENSES) AND IT NOW SEEMS THAT UNLESS YOU HAD A SERIOUS CRIME WITH VICTIMS ---MOST OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES CAN BE GRANTED ---SOME MAY REQUIRE A ONE OR TWO YEAR PROBATIONAL PERIOD---BUT MOST OF THESE LICENSES ARE GRANTED.  THE STATE MAY CALL TO VERIFY AND ASK FOR AN EXPLAINATION.

EVEN PROFESSIONAL LICENSES IN THE MEDICAL FIELD----DOCTORS, ETC. , EVEN WITH A PRIOR CONVICTION CAN NORMALLY GET LICENSED IF THEIR CRIME WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE MEDICAL FIELD OR THE VICTIMS WERE NOT PATIENTS.   

I DO RECALL THAT YEARS AGO A USTA LICENSE WAS REQUIRED BUT NOW MOST STATES DO NOT GET INVOLVED OR QUESTION THE USTA ON ANY MATTERS.

THIS IS INTERESTING AS SEVERAL NAMES ARE STILL MISSING FROM THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD!!!!  VERY INTERESTING.

EITHER WAY, THE SPORT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP SOME BUT THERE IS A LONG WAYS TO GO AS I EXPECT THE CASINOS TO USE THESE MASSIVE LISTS TO MOVE TO DECOUPLE RACING!!!!  THEY ARE AND WILL USE THIS SCANDAL TO THEIR ADVANTAGE!!!!

THIS IS GOING TO GET VERY INTERESTING!

[Locked in with pace]

counselor: Please share your thoughts more often. You bring excellent info to us.