Drop in handle concerns Big M management

[Calhoun]

Why can't the top Harness Jew Gural as well as Horseplop Common Yids pause their sobbing just for Easter Sunday?

Can't us Christians have just one fucking day -- Easter -- without the incessant cacophony of wailing Hebrews?

[Brown jug]

no excuse for not being able to put together strong cards for saturday and yes even friday night
aged horses are coming back out and in a few weeks a lot of 3 year olds will start to show up
write the correct classes and you will get horses

[wizardofoz]

"We have received extraordinary support this year from our horsemen and our horseplayers,but we're starting to see some disturbing trends.” said Meadowlands’ Chief Operating Officer and General Manager Jason Settlemoir.  The first weekend of the month saw the only two $4 million handles of the year in North America, as on Friday (March 3) an industry-best $4,519,050 was put in play, while the next night (Saturday, March 4) saw wagering total $4,062,855. Since that time however the handle has been trending downward.
"Unfortunately we have seen a steady drop in handle since that weekend," Settlemoir said. Field size has also become an issue. "Only 12 of our races this weekend had more than 9 starters and we had no 10 horse fields on Saturday which is a cause for concern."

Meadowlands handle March 31: $3,116,846.             Meadowlands handle April 7: $3,071,224
Meadowlands handle April 1:      $3,201,750.             Meadowlands handle April 8: $3,099,751
Total weekend handle:                  $6,318,596.             Total weekend handle:             $6,170,975
Net handle drop: (-$147,624) and since March 3-4 (-$2,410,933)

From Meadowlands Media Relations

Do your axons and dendrites misfire all the time with these ridiculous posts? They are UP $26 MILLION for the first quarter in handle and you know it.

[PucksnHorses]

Do your axons and dendrites misfire all the time with these ridiculous posts? They are UP $26 MILLION for the first quarter in handle and you know it.

That doesn't fit their agenda

[pocketrocketwinner]

Do your axons and dendrites misfire all the time with these ridiculous posts? They are UP $26 MILLION for the first quarter in handle and you know it.

How much of that handle is from CAWs? They will never tell us, it is a very large %

[Superfecta]

Surprised?

Not at all. That track has become a circus. On track dining sucks too. I took a group of 6 there about a month ago. The food was cold. You only had 5 choices in the buffet and Jeff’s people took the money off my credit card before we even arrived worried that we might not show up. Tip too.

[Senator Blutarsky]

You can add yesterday as the number of attempts of the lengths that the Gural squad, will do to drum up business.  They deployed new as of yesterday Horseplop member - camfan12, to distract and attempt to poach Horseplop members into their Inside Harness platform to drum up betting with supposed Big M (and huge handle Cumberland LOL) trainers and drivers unsubstantial racing notes, where as Inside Harness is a contracted BigM partner and LMAO integrity platform the track is using to show transparency  .

How much do you want to bet if I walked the BigM grounds on a Friday with a sign to drum up biz for Yonkers, I'd be trespassed off the property FOREVER as soon as security and cops were deployed?

Gural, bully, dunce, living out his boyhood dream, from a billionaire perspective.  "Oy vay", go away, and in return I'll bet y'all on Hambo day, it's tradition!    

[stanetelman]

We have received extraordinary support this year from our horsemen and our horseplayers,but we're starting to see some disturbing trends.” said Meadowlands’ Chief Operating Officer and General Manager Jason Settlemoir.  The first weekend of the month saw the only two $4 million handles of the year in North America, as on Friday (March 3) an industry-best $4,519,050 was put in play, while the next night (Saturday, March 4) saw wagering total $4,062,855. Since that time however the handle has been trending downward as it has not reached $3.2 million since April 1st.
Meadowlands handle April 7: $3,071,224.            Meadowlands handle April 14: $3,107,718
Meadowlands handle April 8: $3,099,751.            Meadowlands handle April 15: $3,167,329
Total weekend handle.             $6,071,975.            Total weekend handle.               $6,275,047

Meadowlands media relations

[MikeAnt]

Thank you stantelman for your affirmation of how badly the meadowlands has become. Sad that it’s gurals team of experts they continue to lose credibility with fans across the globe. What used to be considered the Mecca of harness racing has now become the gutter of harness racing. It’s filled with Gural approves cheaters only from not only the horseman, but the management staff and race office. Complete filth!!!!

[Senator Blutarsky]

We have received extraordinary support this year from our horsemen and our horseplayers,but we're starting to see some disturbing trends.” said Meadowlands’ Chief Operating Officer and General Manager Jason Settlemoir.  The first weekend of the month saw the only two $4 million handles of the year in North America, as on Friday (March 3) an industry-best $4,519,050 was put in play, while the next night (Saturday, March 4) saw wagering total $4,062,855. Since that time however the handle has been trending downward as it has not reached $3.2 million since April 1st.
Meadowlands handle April 7: $3,071,224.            Meadowlands handle April 14: $3,107,718
Meadowlands handle April 8: $3,099,751.            Meadowlands handle April 15: $3,167,329
Total weekend handle.             $6,071,975.            Total weekend handle.               $6,275,047

Meadowlands media relations

In the second sentence of your quote, "but", actually means butt, ya know ass, like thanks but not good enough fuckers, and get the Vaseline out because if these current number maintain, decline, we're gonna....add let's say another 6 AMATEUR races and start at 4:00, 20 race card, divide the current quarter million in purses and lower average purses overall. 

Maybe they should call the place GulfstreamM, bring the Dark Lord Stronach crew in, sheesh Churchill Downs did it with Calder, called it Gulfstream Park West, and boom a 180 revival in the mutual pools before CD put the whole thing to sleep because the Florida court affirmed the rules of not needing a para-mutual to have a casino if already established (and bye bye Pompano Park too with legislation).  Ask Gural what is the status of the BigM Casino, LOL, the NJ voters pull off that scab every 2 or so.., but they got the FanDuel partnership  . 

Gural, his team, and the BigM and their beggars cup could rot, they'll stay the course and re-surge likely, however, lol, let me know if their handle freefalls to zero, then cheers.   

[Brown jug]

yes big m is a shadow of itself from the past
question is what track is better from wagering perspective ??

[pocketrocketwinner]

yes big m is a shadow of itself from the past
question is what track is better from wagering perspective ??

Depends on whether you mind betting into pools heavily infiltrated with caw money. Meadowlands won't ever tell anyone but it's widely known caw money is huge there, compared to other harness tracks

[SAW]

You can add yesterday as the number of attempts of the lengths that the Gural squad, will do to drum up business.  They deployed new as of yesterday Horseplop member - camfan12, to distract and attempt to poach Horseplop members into their Inside Harness platform to drum up betting with supposed Big M (and huge handle Cumberland LOL) trainers and drivers unsubstantial racing notes, where as Inside Harness is a contracted BigM partner and LMAO integrity platform the track is using to show transparency  .

We have received extraordinary support this year from our horsemen and our horseplayers,but we're starting to see some disturbing trends.” said Meadowlands’ Chief Operating Officer and General Manager Jason Settlemoir.  The first weekend of the month saw the only two $4 million handles of the year in North America, as on Friday (March 3) an industry-best $4,519,050 was put in play, while the next night (Saturday, March 4) saw wagering total $4,062,855. Since that time however the handle has been trending downward as it has not reached $3.2 million since April 1st.
Meadowlands handle April 7: $3,071,224.            Meadowlands handle April 14: $3,107,718
Meadowlands handle April 8: $3,099,751.            Meadowlands handle April 15: $3,167,329
Total weekend handle.             $6,071,975.            Total weekend handle.               $6,275,047

Meadowlands media relations

Depends on whether you mind betting into pools heavily infiltrated with caw money. Meadowlands won't ever tell anyone but it's widely known caw money is huge there, compared to other harness tracks

This is exactly what wrong with this great site............ Innuendo/made up rumors and outright Lies.

[Senator Blutarsky]

yes big m is a shadow of itself from the past
question is what track is better from wagering perspective ??

Love you  , though art seeking solutions.  They, us, no one is gonna like the answer.

Let's first cross off that no one in life should be making more than a handful of investments in their life.  It's stressful.  You study, you wait, you load up and grab your balls and your fire away.  Too late for most of us here.

You learn to handicap, maybe get insider info which we know eh, whatever.  That is 50%, picking winners that is.  The other 50% is knowing how to bet.  Then be ready to do one of 2 things to answer your question which is:

Either no track and cherry pick, get all the entered stakes schedules for trainers and their horses and see their strategy use lifetime past performances, hit all the stakes where the purses outshine the betting pools (with the acceptation outside Harness of the Kentucky Derby lol) and doping would be contrary to logic - Or - a dozen of us or so take over a large track and not in the sense of operations, I mean onsite people with eyes and ears open, binoculars, those chatting it up with everyone, and other crucial offsite components to document every aspect of regulatory, behind the scenes, racing and the complexities better than anyone else.  A blend of inside information and handicapper skills, a sub Horseplop member group could possibly pull it off.

It probably could get funded for a couple of mil, totally legit, and go after the $500mil or so a year wagered at the Big M or Mohawk for example and carve off 5-10% in winning profit over that year.

The reality is sadly we're all going to figure out on our own, individually, and be asking ourselves the same question next year and the year after until harness racing is cycling through its stages of "cancer" brought to you by organized crime, scumbag insiders, crooked politicians, greedy businessmen and casinos. 

[Senator Blutarsky]

This is exactly what wrong with this great site............ Innuendo/made up rumors and outright Lies.
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The BigM owes us, we not it.  Not rumor or lies.  You're a fan of there, me too but not as much since Gural, others too, but we're nobodies bitch, but you can speak for yourself.