We ain’t giving back no money

[Wawajones]

Race 9 at Cumberland.  Favorite breaks, mid pack, on rail, almost goes down, driver falls off the back, horse takes two other horses way to the outside.  Ehrlich is in panic mode, yelling that hose is loose on the track.  All horses slow down except the 1 who is motoring along the rail, opening up 25 lengths.  Loose horse is eventually caught before race finishes.  Long inquiry, then declared OFFICIAL!

Should have been an obvious no contest

[Senator Blutarsky]

Race 9 at Cumberland.  Favorite breaks, mid pack, on rail, almost goes down, driver falls off the back, horse takes two other horses way to the outside.  Ehrlich is in panic mode, yelling that hose is loose on the track.  All horses slow down except the 1 who is motoring along the rail, opening up 25 lengths.  Loose horse is eventually caught before race finishes.  Long inquiry, then declared OFFICIAL!

Should have been an obvious no contest

Absafuckinlutely!   

Watched replay shit show.

As soon as he said (3rd turn) loose horse the race was forever altered as the drivers reacted to it who weren't in the back when the horse and driver went down (after 1st turn) , then everyone was inclusive in the reaction and alter, with the exception of the 1 w2w, you are correct.

About 20k in the pool, 5 of which they pocketed.

As the day wanders on I'm more and more sour about casino owned tracks, and stand alone tracks - EVERYTHING!  I might need to be sedated to not smash something!     

[PIGLAND]

looked ok

[toothman]

announcer choked.
once he starts screaming loose horse loose horse the race has to be a no contest.

[Senator Blutarsky]

announcer choked.
once he starts screaming loose horse loose horse the race has to be a no contest.

    Prize Winner 

You had me at "choked"!   

[Mailbox Money]

I hate when the announcer starts instructing the remaining drivers when there is a mishap. I drove for about 15yrs and you cannot hear the announcer while the race is going on! The only time I ever heard anything was passing the grandstand at some tracks. However what you hear is inaudible with the the horses breathing, the gravel pinging off the bikes and other guys chirping, whistling and grunting. In the lane it all turns into growling and whips shwooshing.If the announcer wants to  help he should instruct the patrons on safety  measures. Anyone who is driving has to be aware of their own surroundings and keep an eye out for what's ahead. Laying out in the bike restricts vision and distorts perception.
 

[Senator Blutarsky]

I hate when the announcer starts instructing the remaining drivers when there is a mishap. I drove for about 15yrs and you cannot hear the announcer while the race is going on! The only time I ever heard anything was passing the grandstand at some tracks. However what you hear is inaudible with the the horses breathing, the gravel pinging off the bikes and other guys chirping, whistling and grunting. In the lane it all turns into growling and whips shwooshing.If the announcer wants to  help he should instruct the patrons on safety  measures. Anyone who is driving has to be aware of their own surroundings and keep an eye out for what's ahead. Laying out in the bike restricts vision and distorts perception.

Brings up a good point, not sure what technology a small, underfunded track like Cumberland has but emergency lights, and high decibel speakers, exist, and during the day races is another disadvantage ie seeing flashing lights.  But a better protocol should of been in place, and your insight on not blaming the drivers is understood, and even the one who caused the accident if it was other than negligence and or stupidity. 

"Laying out in the bike restricts vision and distorts perception." - and you've talked about being horizontal in the bike in other threads, but this now FULL point ties a better bow on your argument.   

[Calhoun]

  emergency lights, and high decibel speakers,

I'd like to try putting those electric shock dog collars on drivers.  Highest setting

That might help

[Locked in with pace]

Did anyone ask for a judge's explanation?? The announcer made it worse than it was.

[Senator Blutarsky]

I'd like to try putting those electric shock dog collars on drivers.  Highest setting

That might help

 

But civilized and inconspicuous Please!  Remote testicle shocking.  There, long overdue an innovation that finally makes sense. 

Who says we can't hash out next generation shit and save a dying industry while protecting those that matter most drivers gamblers all at the same time - right here in a Horseplop forum thread!   

[chief yogi]

yes should have been a no race.  everyone except drew checked back, slowed up and was very cautious and results might have been very different. i did not bet the race but still am sad that the gamblers once again got screwed.  should have been refund and split the purse among all horses.

[Hambletonian46]

I don't think this incident rose to the level of a "no contest." Every time a horse breaks there is a good chance somebody else will be interfered with...it is just racing. If however there are horses down on the track with a lap to go, or even worse, horse galloping dragging broken equipment coming in the wrong direction, then the race should be immediately halted.

Some tracks have those red beacons they turn on during incidents, perhaps there should be a specific color just to warn drivers to pull up immediately. Cause it would suck if you owned a horse who finished first and was driven out only to find out it was an unpaid workout. Or to have the driver stop driving and lose places anticipating a no contest.

[MCR]

I don't think this incident rose to the level of a "no contest." Every time a horse breaks there is a good chance somebody else will be interfered with...it is just racing. If however there are horses down on the track with a lap to go, or even worse, horse galloping dragging broken equipment coming in the wrong direction, then the race should be immediately halted.

Some tracks have those red beacons they turn on during incidents, perhaps there should be a specific color just to warn drivers to pull up immediately. Cause it would suck if you owned a horse who finished first and was driven out only to find out it was an unpaid workout. Or to have the driver stop driving and lose places anticipating a no contest.

Agree with all you have said.  I don't watch much Maine racing but happened to be tuning in last couple weeks.  I could see both sides of this.  I thought possibly a no contest as the whole field except the winner seemed to have pulled up and stopped racing.   Now according to the announcer the horse was running towards the field so in that case possibly a no contest.  I for one never saw the loose horse so idk.  Hope all involved are ok.

[Senator Blutarsky]

I don't think this incident rose to the level of a "no contest." Every time a horse breaks there is a good chance somebody else will be interfered with...it is just racing. If however there are horses down on the track with a lap to go, or even worse, horse galloping dragging broken equipment coming in the wrong direction, then the race should be immediately halted.

Some tracks have those red beacons they turn on during incidents, perhaps there should be a specific color just to warn drivers to pull up immediately. Cause it would suck if you owned a horse who finished first and was driven out only to find out it was an unpaid workout. Or to have the driver stop driving and lose places anticipating a no contest.

Any other non-po-dunk track it would of been halted immediately and it has, despite any of our opinions, they wouldn't wait for someone to get a loose horse that other drivers when were in the front when the incident happened to wait MORE TIME to get wrangled (or not) to make the big decision opposed to risking another collision.

You're correct about the beacon, and how the winner or anyone who raced and earned paid placing of the purse money should feel short changed, however because it is rare, and it is the price of doing business, it's only reasonable - life & safety over money.  These are not cage matches, like here!   

[chief yogi]

at one point the loose horse dragging bike was on the track running the wrong way. lucky he stopped. i did see drivers looking to the backstrech at that, and weather anyone heard the announcer idk but the drivers did stop on their horses all except drew. think under the circumstances no race was called for.