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Not falling for it Senator. You better than anybody knows that no one really wins a fight but it's fun trying.
Are you guys new to the game?
Lol. 2/5s of second into race everyone watching knew far and away best horse in race was doa. My thought was why isnt dd on gate, lol and then he immediately veered left. Lol. Looked like training mile to me. But given DD histiry (Frankie Dettori equivelent in standardbreds) would not surprise me if dd had a ticket on p5. Its why when racing was more concerned about integrity of sport it was reluctant to have these huge payoff pools.Amusing that best jockey in thoroughbreds over last 20 yrs and same but driver in standardbreds have character questions involving gambling/race fixing. Might give intelligent people a pause; not a ploptart like me though. Im in this friday with both fists. Lol
The long stretch does take acclimating to, it’s a real thing. Reading way too much into it.
You have an issue, I found the most direct way for you to follow through and MAKE YOUR VOICE AND FEELINGS MATTER! Hoping you'd follow through there and advise us here!You don't want to call him, just BITCH & COMPLAIN, got it!!!It's now on me, you can't email the dude, hey I heard you say this? did you ever consider that, I got 20 years on ya maybe we can chat for 5 minutes, I'm a racing fan.......No just the cop-out and new blame! Kooter, play with the retarded kiddy pussies, when you're tired of that and ready to engage....you know what I like, INTELLIGENCE and FUN and RACING OPPORTUNITIES - or - to BANG AWAY! "Lend me your ear and I'll sing you a song and I will try not to sing out of key"
"Lend me your ear and I'll sing you a song and I will try not to sing out of key"
Nice Beatles song, thanks.....Joe Cocker's version too...he's dead unfortunately, what I do know, the very last thing he did before he died, was watch "Grumpy Old Men" from his hospital bed. The cigarette monster got him, he's coming for me too!
It's an old familiar tale; the pari-mutuel industry model has two distinct user groups which causes a lot of conflict between the two. In a typical retail business, something is supplied something is bought. The buyer/user, if he likes it, buys it again, if he doesn't then fuck the supplier. Both parties understand the ramifications. In the casino business (slots, roulette) the buyer/user/gambler knows the score going in. Come in here and play, you may win big, but the odds are already stacked against you before you start; Roulette, a 36:1 payment on a straight hit against natural odds that should pay 38:1. Huge casino edge; the Slots, perhaps a $0.90 return on every $1 wagered. Huge casino edge. No mystery.Racing, different freakin business model altogether. The supplier/horseman/owner does what's best for his own interest without regard to the end user/gambler (blast him, take him back, take him around the track and let's drop money off the last 5, training trip only he needs it, stay in the NW1 2 class so let's not win, etc etc etc). If you're a horseman, owner, it makes sense. Do what's best for the horse if we have a long-term plan or trying to maximize a condition for as much money as you can. A very old story. Has any trainer ever said to a driver, "hey we're not ready or I'd love to stay in the NW1 class, or we're training for next week's big race, but fuck it, make sure you give that poor schmuck gambler a fair shake and try to win no matter what the cost."Conversely the user/gambler entering a gaming establishment expects a fair race each time; simply that the drivers are trying on the horses that they drive without some predesignated agenda. That expectation is absolutely fair and deserved as the product being offered is a gambling product for use, and that the wheel simply isn't tilted before you play (discounting the 20-30% take out before you start). Sadly, it's a naive expectation.Ultimately, it's one industry with the two distinct participant groups that have entirely different business agendas. It's not sustainable. Is it any wonder the gamblers have left?