BURKE, RICK MOORE + JERRY SILVA TO BE SUED OUT OF THE BUSINESS 4 EVER!

[JOLLY RANCHER]

OPEN HANDED CAUGHT THROWING THE RULES RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW! FRIDAY NIGHT THEY HAD THE NADIA LOBELL STAKES FOR $115K. BURKE PUT 2 IN AGAINST A COUPLE DECENT FILLIES. ONLY 1 OF THE BURKE FILLIES WAS ON LASIX.

BOTH GOT LASIX BY MISTAKE...YET BOTH WERE ALLOWED TO RACE!

OF COURSE BOTH HIT THE BOARD RUNNING 1ST AND 3RD.

WTF?

HOW IS THE FILLY NOT PREVIOUSLY NOT


ON THE LIST STILL ALLOWED IN?

BURKE AND JERRY SILVA DEFINITELY GOT SPECIAL TREATMENT. FROM WHO? RICK MOORE AT HOOSIER?

ERV'S OWNERS ARE STEAMED! PELLING'S OWNER IS SUPER PISSED SINCE THEY RAN 2ND. BOTH HAVE RETAINED LAWYERS TO SEE WHO SCREWED THE POOCH!

[upthetrack1234]

One call to Howard Taylor and this all goes away.
Remember this, nothing sticks to Teflon Ron 

[hoosierboy]

Guarantee HT is already on it

[Admin]

 Nadia  $115,000 PaceWagering Results:HNHorse/DriverWinPlaceShow

3

Strong Poison
Ronnie Wrenn Jr. 12.00 6.00 3.00

6

Southwind Bella
Brandon Bates 7.80 2.80

2

Mcseaside
Trace Tetrick 2.10

 Order:HNHorse/Driver/TrainerFinTimeLQOdds

3

Strong Poison
Ronnie Wrenn Jr.
Ron Burke1 -Q1:48.026.35.00

6

Southwind Bella
Brandon Bates
Brett Pelling2 -Q1:48.026.210.60

2

Mcseaside
Trace Tetrick
Ron Burke3 -H1:48.026.4*0.60

4

Sweet Amira
Peter Wrenn
Chantal Mitchell4 -31:48.327.22.30

5

Sleazy Mama
Michael Oosting
Erv Miller5 -3Q1:48.326.326.00

1

Layallyourloveonm e
John De Long
Brian Brown6 -3Q1:48.326.331.20

Time

26.0

[Admin]

Sorry if the results aren't as linear as could be viewed. Nice mile by the winner for sure.

[Yonkers1A]

Burke needs to be banded

[shotgunner]

1. Arguing on money lost during a 115k race where you finished second is probably not worth having a call to the lawyer.
2. Lasix as used by the state and going to presented as such by any lawyer is to stop a horse from bleeding, a horse that wasn’t bleeding and wasn’t on lasix isn’t going to get a real improvement from lasix (arguing that lasix is a performance enhancer for non bleeders in court would be a bad idea)
3. The vet and commission are at fault, and the bettors would have a case if Hoosier handled anything at all and the public wasn’t notified for first race lasix.

[The Thorn]

What is the arguement here?  Over 3rd place??  Why would the 2nd place finisher want to sue.  Strong Poison the winner WAS listed on the program as getting lasix.  I deleted my copy of the program so I don't remember if McSeaside was listed as getting the med or not but the results do show they both got it.  So maybe they may have some kind of case against the 3rd place finisher but no one is getting sued.

This thread is basically BS and just hype for Burke and Hoosier management  haters

[bigbettor]

What is the arguement here?  Over 3rd place??  Why would the 2nd place finisher want to sue.  Strong Poison the winner WAS listed on the program as getting lasix.  I deleted my copy of the program so I don't remember if McSeaside was listed as getting the med or not but the results do show they both got it.  So maybe they may have some kind of case against the 3rd place finisher but no one is getting sued.

This thread is basically BS and just hype for Burke and Hoosier management  haters

GSAC  Erv Miller and his owners clearly have standing and the rules regarding Lasix + safeguarding the betting public were seriously violated. Learn the game laddie.
I hope Burke gets in a head-on car crash and tastes his own blood in his big fat mouth!

[shotgunner]

Even if you disqualified the filly that got lasix, millers  filly would have been 4th instead of 5th. If you wanted to throw a fit, cal the commission and see if they’ll disqualify them and you’ll make 5k off the phone call. But getting a lawyer for 5k and it’s been decided by a state entity? Fucking stupid.

[Meadow Ford]

Even if you disqualified the filly that got lasix, millers  filly would have been 4th instead of 5th. If you wanted to throw a fit, cal the commission and see if they’ll disqualify them and you’ll make 5k off the phone call. But getting a lawyer for 5k and it’s been decided by a state entity? Fucking stupid.

I am guessing the owners would say "It is not about the money"!
IMHO It should be a class action suit brought on by every owner in the race, and everybody that bet on the race.

[Locked in with pace]

There will be NO changes. It's official!!!

[LAW AND ORDER]

1. Arguing on money lost during a 115k race where you finished second is probably not worth having a call to the lawyer.
2. Lasix as used by the state and going to presented as such by any lawyer is to stop a horse from bleeding, a horse that wasn’t bleeding and wasn’t on lasix isn’t going to get a real improvement from lasix (arguing that lasix is a performance enhancer for non bleeders in court would be a bad idea)
3. The vet and commission are at fault, and the bettors would have a case if Hoosier handled anything at all and the public wasn’t notified for first race lasix.

IF THATS THE CASE, THEN WHY REGULATE IT AND EVEN PUT IT IN THE PROGRAM. JUST LET EVERYONE AND ANYONE USES LASIX AT WILL WHENEVER THEY FELT LIKE IT, RIGHT?  W-R-O-N-G!!! TOTAL NONSENSE AND ALL OF THE HORSEMEN SAID THE ONLY THING TO DO WAS SCRATCH THE HORSE WHO RECIEVED IT BY MISTAKE AND REFUND THE STAKES PAYMENT TO THE OWNERS. GIVE ME A BRAKE, IF IT WAS ANY OTHER TRAINERS THE HORSE WOULD OF BEEN SCRATCHED, PERIOD. WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T THINK ANYONE WILL SUE BECAUSE OF THE HASSLE AND HEADACHE INVOLVED. BUT ITS JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY NOBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT HARNESS RACING AND HOW THIS SPORT CONTINUES TO STEP ON ITS OWN DICK.

[LAW AND ORDER]

Even if you disqualified the filly that got lasix, millers  filly would have been 4th instead of 5th. If you wanted to throw a fit, cal the commission and see if they’ll disqualify them and you’ll make 5k off the phone call. But getting a lawyer for 5k and it’s been decided by a state entity? Fucking stupid.

I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHY NOT JUST SCRATCH THE FILLY WHO ACCIDENTALLY GOT LASIX AND ITS DONE AND OVER? IF ITS NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL, WHY DOES EVERY OTHER TRAINER WHEN PUUTING THEIR HORSES ON LASIX, HAVE TO GET THIER VET TO TURN IN A LASIX SLIPP SO THE THEIR HORSES CAN RACE ON LASIX?. YOU GUYS ARE EITHER STUPID OR YOUR IN BURKES BARN. THERE IS A PROCEDURE THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED IF YOU WANT TO PUT A HORSE ON LASIX. THAT WAS NOT DONE IN THIS CASE AND THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO WAS SCRATCH THE HORSE. THIS WAS UNFAIR TO EVERY OTHER HORSE IN THAT RACE, NOT TO MENTION THE BETTING PUBLIC AND 50 OR SO FANS THEY HAVE LEFT OF THE SPORT.

[jupiter]

Ya, give Ronnie a pass, don't think so. Enough rules have been tossed aside for them. It's trainers responsibility to make sure your horse comes prepared to race, that means horse gets lasix or not. There should be no question, Horse should come down and let Ronnie deal with the vet and his help for fucking up.