BURKE, RICK MOORE + JERRY SILVA TO BE SUED OUT OF THE BUSINESS 4 EVER!

[Larry Bird Boy]

Everyone in the Hochstetler barn KNOWS that we do not give any horse anything other than feed 48 hours before the race. Jay always said if you inject a horse with water within 48 hours of the race that it is an automatic scratch and fine/suspension. I think that is the rule but I’ll ask homer Tuesday when Ponda Jet wins another! Lol But you cannot administer anything into a horse on race day or automatic scratch. Doesn’t matter if it was an accident or not. They should have never allowed this horse to race. It’s a very bad mistake and this will never happen in the Hochstetler barn.

PS- keep your eyes peeled on our little 2 year old Ponda Title and of course, the best 3 year old undefeated Trotter in the world Ponda Jet. It will be a 4th of July to remember ! Go Jay Hocky- you got this.

Get a life with that panda jet horse. Can’t wait until he gets smoked so you’ll stop the bullshit.

[Mailbox Money]

Nothing will ever happen to Teflon Ron no matter what happens! Y'all should realize that by now. He can win an entire card and all that you will see is more positive praise from  the USTA! If Lou Pena was white, nobody would have ever bothered him!

[Parked]

I wonder how high they tested. (How much lasix did they get ?)  How do you explain this to an owner.  ? 

[Here they come]

So much jealousy over Burke on this site. Get a life already. Honest mistake by the track. Move on

[Larry Bird Boy]

So much jealousy over Burke on this site. Get a life already. Honest mistake by the track. Move on

you try getting over a 115k purse that was given to Burke on a silver platter. Gotta put an asterisk * by that horses name for that start to make it fair for anyone who is betting.

[Parked]

So much jealousy over Burke on this site. Get a life already. Honest mistake by the track. Move on

Its one thing to forget lasix but for a trainer/2 nd trainer or even the groom to go through the procedures for a horse that has never raced on lasix before not think/say “hey, is this right “?   Yes the vet that administered should have checked the program and tattoo.. oops. USTA says chip is enough.  Several big time screw ups but it starts in the barn   Not just one horse but TWO !!!!! 

You can delegate authority but you can’t delegate responsibility …..

[White Rabbit]

First off you can’t put a horse on lasix the day its in to go. You scoped her after the race a get her on for her next start. But how are you going to scope her the same day before the race and add lasixs. If that was the case , which it absolutely wasn’t she would be scratched sick if she was standing in the stall bleeding. One poster said that if the horse doesn’t bleed lasixs wont matter,
That’s incorrect from a pharmacology standpoint. Lasixs works on the Loop of Henle, it will lower the blood pressure of a horse wether they are a bleeder or not. Lower blood pressure means less cardiac resistance. She did go a track record lifetime 48 flat mile.
Mcseaside was put on Lasixs 3-31-23.
How are you running a 20 million a year operation, and every time a mic is put in front of you , you tell everyone how great , smart , your system training, feed is the greatest, so on and so forth but you can’t hire competent people to get lasix to a horse on it and not the ones who are not.
If you give lasix to a horse that’s not on lasix and get tested you get disqualified. You also can get DQ if your horse is on lasix and test to high a level.

[Larry Bird Boy]

First off you can’t put a horse on lasix the day its in to go. You scoped her after the race a get her on for her next start. But how are you going to scope her the same day before the race and add lasixs. If that was the case , which it absolutely wasn’t she would be scratched sick if she was standing in the stall bleeding. One poster said that if the horse doesn’t bleed lasixs wont matter,
That’s incorrect from a pharmacology standpoint. Lasixs works on the Loop of Henle, it will lower the blood pressure of a horse wether they are a bleeder or not. Lower blood pressure means less cardiac resistance. She did go a track record lifetime 48 flat mile.
Mcseaside was put on Lasixs 3-31-23.
How are you running a 20 million a year operation, and every time a mic is put in front of you , you tell everyone how great , smart , your system training, feed is the greatest, so on and so forth but you can’t hire competent people to get lasix to a horse on it and not the ones who are not.
If you give lasix to a horse that’s not on lasix and get tested you get disqualified. You also can get DQ if your horse is on lasix and test to high a level.

Excellent post. As someone else said you cannot give a horse anything on the day of the race or it’s automatic suspension. Hoosier dropped th3 ball on this one. No matter who the horse is or whoever the trainer is, that rule applies to anyone who holds a license. They can’t have it both way..... or can they seeing that it’s Ron Burke?

[The Thorn]

That is not what happened. You are misrepresenting the facts. It was "first start Lasix" after bleeding the previous start.

Finally someone who understands the facts here.  Strong Poison bled BEFORE the day of the race.  The program said "First Time Lasix"  and the program is printed DAYS BEFORE the race so there is no case against her. 

The problem was when the program was printed they forgot to say that McSeaside was getting Lasix but if you look at her past performances all of the recent ones said she was on lasix which again reinforces that it was nothing but a printer error and the stable had nothing to do with anything.

[Larry Bird Boy]

That is not what happened. You are misrepresenting the facts. It was "first start Lasix" after bleeding the previous start.

Not true. They said all of that bs AFTER the horse was accidentally given the oasis. It’s was Hoosier trying to do damage control.

[The Thorn]

Give us a break.  Do you believe everything you read or what people tell you?

There was no accident except for the printer.  Everyone in every barn knows that both fillies were scheduled to get lasix and whoever is spouting this bs about people complaining are just trying to stir crap up on this site and this site only, Prove that Erv or anybody on the grounds said that there was something wrong.  Just the aholes on this site trying to stir up shit which they managed to do very well.

[Parked]

Was an announcement made of the MISTAKE.    Ho hum.  At the track ?  Did Burke report that the program was wrong ? Surely he looks at programs .. was the horse entered as a lasix horse ?   

[Generation XYZ]

OPEN HANDED CAUGHT THROWING THE RULES RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW! FRIDAY NIGHT THEY HAD THE NADIA LOBELL STAKES FOR $115K. BURKE PUT 2 IN AGAINST A COUPLE DECENT FILLIES. ONLY 1 OF THE BURKE FILLIES WAS ON LASIX.

BOTH GOT LASIX BY MISTAKE...YET BOTH WERE ALLOWED TO RACE!

OF COURSE BOTH HIT THE BOARD RUNNING 1ST AND 3RD.

WTF?

HOW IS THE FILLY NOT PREVIOUSLY NOT


ON THE LIST STILL ALLOWED IN?

BURKE AND JERRY SILVA DEFINITELY GOT SPECIAL TREATMENT. FROM WHO? RICK MOORE AT HOOSIER?

ERV'S OWNERS ARE STEAMED! PELLING'S OWNER IS SUPER PISSED SINCE THEY RAN 2ND. BOTH HAVE RETAINED LAWYERS TO SEE WHO SCREWED THE POOCH!

Jerry Silva was a dirt bag before he changed his name to Jerry Silva.  Used to be a porn peddler, before he became a "legit" businessman...

[Generation XYZ]

GSAC  Erv Miller and his owners clearly have standing and the rules regarding Lasix + safeguarding the betting public were seriously violated. Learn the game laddie.
I hope Burke gets in a head-on car crash and tastes his own blood in his big fat mouth!

Did you hear Burke speak at HOF banquet? It was the most uneducated language barrier a US native could speak.  Sad this is the top earning trainer in harness racing.

[Larry Bird Boy]

Jerry Silva was a dirt bag before he changed his name to Jerry Silva.  Used to be a porn peddler, before he became a "legit" businessman...

Jerry Silva was a John Holmes fan.