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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2023, 01:39:58 PM »
Time will tell.

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2023, 01:41:42 PM »

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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2023, 04:05:07 PM »
Pay to Play, Play to Win!

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2023, 05:46:36 PM »
Again, yesterday was a TT , in a full field 3rd over with numbers favoring the horse on the lead , he’s  not going to pace a last 1/4 in 24 n change or a last 3/8 in 37. He will go to the stud barn with that mark. Also I don’t think the Sweet Lou line is going to over take the SBSW stud lines in the breeding barn.

Doesn't have to overtake the SBSW line. Time will tell which SBSW son will extend the line and leave a potent siring son to carry on. Don't forget Bettor's Delight -- will Tall Dark Stanger be his answer? How about the Western Ideal line -- will Always B Miki be the one to leave a potent siring son? Or will some dominant outcross sire come out of nowhere like SBSW and Sweet Lou did?  Time will tell.
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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2023, 06:37:44 PM »
hasnt reached the bottom? i dont know time will tell but he had a rabbitt and a short field who couldnt compete.it sure looked like they were doing everything in their power to get record.i mean stablemate setting wicked fractions

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2023, 06:41:37 PM »
hasnt reached the bottom? i dont know time will tell but he had a rabbitt and a short field who couldnt compete.it sure looked like they were doing everything in their power to get record.i mean stablemate setting wicked fractions
No one expected anything but that scenario. i am saying he hasn't even been extended. Fucking earplugs havent been popped all year, Cmon.

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2023, 07:02:12 PM »
No one expected anything but that scenario. i am saying he hasn't even been extended. Fucking earplugs havent been popped all year, Cmon.

Any competent ownership group that wanted to promote their future stallion would have done exactly the same thing. World Record equals larger syndication price equals larger stud fee. And this World Champ isn't done.

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2023, 07:21:06 PM »
Absolutely. he can print money now.  Many, many millions.

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2023, 07:28:57 PM »
He hit his bottom yesterday. He will go to the stub barn with that record. That race yesterday was a TT , his stablemate put up insane #’s for absolutely no reason and he still didn’t crack 46 which is what they were after.

100% spot on.

This isn't even in my top 500 efforts of all time.  He'll be a great bet against when it matters.

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2023, 07:45:14 PM »
Seriously, are we supposed to take you seriously?

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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2023, 09:58:39 PM »
Rewatch NA Cup final, Confederate, 3rd over with numbers being dictated by a horse trying to win , not set up speed for his stable mate, Comfedrate came up a nose short.

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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2023, 10:27:58 PM »
Records are made to be broken. There we be another horse which will break his record.

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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2023, 11:22:36 PM »
Seriously, are we supposed to take you seriously?

Everybody has their own opinion. That used to be the beauty of betting on these races. Most see each race very differently.

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2023, 11:26:49 PM »
If he raced as a four yr old against full fields he would get exposed HUGE!  He has ZERO gate speed and he can't do it on the front end.  I bet he would have a hell of a time beating :49 in a time trial.  He has NEVER won on the front end.  Wait till he gets in a twelve horse field at Lexington and comes 3rd or 4th over with dull flow.  Against this crop of rats he can do it.  You have three players in this crop.  Confederate, It's My Show, & Seven Colors.  I think if you have Seven Colors first over and Confederate is 3rd or 4th over at Lex he gets smoked.  He has been extremely lucky with how these trips have worked out.  When the trip didn't work he got beat.  He's not a handy horse at all and everyone including Timmy knows it.  He's a insanely fast stalker but he can't do it on the front and things have to go his way or he will wind up short.  My guess is your gonna see him four more times and then he's done.  Lex for SS Final.  Then probably the first week at Lex and skip second week.  Go to Indiana for BC elim and Final and then retired.

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Re: There are no words....
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2023, 11:29:35 PM »
and one last parting thought.  You ask any real expert on what it takes to make a great stud and they will tell you one thing!  They have to be able to win on the front end.  Name one Super Sire that didn't win on the front end?  I'll get crickets on this one......

 

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